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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 3, 2012 11:41:20 GMT -5
and just to muddy the waters a little more:
"Here is the latest, which is from a reliable guest we have had in the recent past.
Please remember that these are rumors. I do believe the information below is accurate.
via Faeit 212 "a must remain anonymous source" New LotR box is in November. No one knows what's in it, if it's going to be The Hobbit specific, or if there'll be something for The Hobbit but expandable into the War for the Ring etc, it's really hardcore clamped down.
Unless something changed since yesterday afternoon, we're getting CSM and DA before Christmas with the current plan being for both to be in our hands before November.
The rest of the stuff, like plans for waves before the Codex is something I can't comment on. Kroot are getting new models, but in the current version of the playtest they're not in the Tau book (though this could mean they just want play testers to be using a kroot-less army to figure out the flaws and what kroot need to offer... though that's not exactly rocket science). "
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 3, 2012 11:43:30 GMT -5
and just in case you aren't completely confused yet:
"It looks like the release schedule may be getting more defined now, and with that there is some good news and some bad. Lets look at the bad......... Dark Angels pushed back to April 2013. Chaos Marines also further back now, and not going to happen to October. So yes, that does push back Tau and even Eldar further.
There is a lot of good news in here as well. Including what appears to be a final name for the playtested Tau flyer lamprey, and now said to be clarified into the Tau Copperhead. Also in this bunch are more tyranid rumors, as well as the failing of the Thunderbolt to make the grade.
Please remember that these are rumors.
via Faeit 212"A Must remain Anonymous Source" The so called rumour clampdown consists only of motivational speeches and mails. Apparently it works, but there is nothing special about it - only exception is the Hobbit stuff that is developed in a physically separated area, but some staff were shifted back including a game designer and most of the digital artists.
Flyer waves incoming: there are two full waves pending release: a Tyranid wave (Harpy, Harrier, Tyranid Warriors, Mycetic Spore and reinvented rules for Pyrovore as anti-air unit) and a Dark Eldar wave (Void Raven, Grotesque unit with expanded options, Sliscus, Sathonyx and Vect (on foot)). There was a third wave planned for the guard (Thunderbolt, Hydra, armoured veterans, Storm Troopers) but it was postponed into oblivion because the Thunderbolt didn’t get approved. Four more fliers in the pipeline: renamed Eldar Nightwing (finished), Tau Copperhead (finished), and a medium sized Space Marine and a large Ork flyer. There are upgrade packs for Space Marines and an Ork flakk trakk / buggy and a kopta box in the pipeline, but seem further off than the other flyer themed waves. A daemon flyer (or swooping) wave is even more far off. All waves may come without a codex. I don’t know when or in which order these are released.
Codices/army books won’t get released with a faster pace, but there are more out of order releases that keep us busy in the meantime. Expect still three books per system per year.
Model production and codex production are decoupled after the planning phase now. Warriors of Chaos, Dark Angels, Chaos Space Marine codices are finished, Tau and High Elves nearly finished. Models for all of them plus Eldar are finished (modeled, not necessarily mass produced or boxed). Dark Elves nearly finished. Dwarfs, Wood Elves and Space Marines models are in the works. Release dates are, Chaos Space Marines (October 2012), Warriors of Chaos (November 2012), High Elves (February 2013), Dark Angels (April 2013) and the rest is not fixed.
The next fantasy supplement deals with engines of war. The next 40k supplement deals with campaigns, experience gains for troops and conversions to represent these changes.
There is one extra release next summer (2013): Blood Bowl!
The Hobbit release gets completely rescheduled at the moment, so nothing certain to tell. Release is full plastic, characters only available in unit boxes or themed full character boxes.
Every army rulebook from now on will have a special defining mechanic. - WoC and CSM have random gift of the gods charts. - Tau have a system of unit upgrades that get unlocked by another unit or other effects. For example, a Firewarrior cadre with an ethereal next to it, with markerlight support and scouting kroot unit will get a serious buff. Every unit has a small chart for three of these effects. - High Elves get a renewed court rule: No more always strike first, but units can get it back plus other effects if not accompanied by the wrong character (rolled before the game). - Dark Angels units choose a circle that is kept secret during the game. Only a fraction of the army’s units can take a circle that has an in game effect. Circles can be revealed midgame and grant a special rule depending on the circle. "
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 3, 2012 12:08:35 GMT -5
and....
Incidentally there was a lay off at GW HQ this week because of a leak. Rumour has it that is a leak of monstrous proportions. Speculation: maybe GW is trying to find their whistleblowers with a barrage of contradicting "news".
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 13, 2012 12:01:59 GMT -5
via Faeit 212 (a Must Remain Anonymous Source) Chaos Space Marines is on the 8th of September
That said, the starter box will not be being released in September at all.
Big Pause..............
It's the last Saturday of August along with the White Dwarf previewing CSM. (the 25th).
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 13, 2012 12:03:13 GMT -5
Updated with More Information to clarify pre-orders and release dates. The 25th is the white dwarf which is all about the new starter and chaos space marines.
Pre-Orders for the new starter set begin on the 25th, for release on the 1st.
Pre-Order for Chaos Space Marines go up on the 8th and the entirety of their range will be released in two waves on the 15th and the 29th.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 17, 2012 13:29:19 GMT -5
from the GW site: This morning Servitor 13 was busy monitoring the vox traffic at our head office when he intercepted this communique. It all appears very sinister, but what's clearly evident is that Vengeance is undeniably coming. It looks like the 25th August is definitely a day to mark down in your calendar. www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=3600014
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 22, 2012 11:36:27 GMT -5
updated release schedule:
The way this is looking, we will have very little time to adjust to codices in the near future, as the release schedules look very busy for the next 8+ months. Exciting times are ahead.
In this one Hastings lays out the release schedule for many months to come. He is a very credible rumor source, so lets get down to all the details.
via 75Hastings69 on Warseer Tau are the first 40k release of next year (after the Deamons which release for both at the same time) and before Eldar.
Dark Angels are, after CSM and before Chaos Daemons (Last codex of 2012)
Should look something like... Sep CSM, Oct WoC, Nov DA, beginning Dec Hobbit, busy few months eh and next year looks likely to continue the pace.
I believe CSM will be in the WD after the starter box issue and release end sep/begin oct. then same pattern for WoC, DA & Hobbit. Does seem a lot to cram in before the end of the year but I'm reliably informed this is what's happening........of course I could be wrong.
White Dwarf
393 starter 394 CSM 395 WoC 396 Hobbit
No SoB for a long time yet
For clarity running order for 40k & wfb = 40k starter Chaos Space Marines Warriors of Chaos Dark Angels Chaos Daemons/Daemons of Chaos Tau High Elves Eldar Lizard Men
That little lot should take us to around this time next year or a couple of months after (plus waves of models in between the codex/army book releases.... oh and the hobbit stuff).
So this is What 2012 should look like......... Chaos Space Marines: End of September Warriors of Chaos: End of October Dark Angels: End of November Hobbit: Beginning of December Chaos Daemons: last codex of the year? End of December? Tau: First Codex of 2013
The first part of this looks similar to what I have heard for White Dwarf. White Dwarf for October is full of Chaos Marines. So with my sources and Hastings (which is very reliable, I have to go with this set. In essence everything seems to line up)
via Faeit 212( A Must Remain Anonymous Source) October white dwarf articles are all about chaos Chaos Marines and Dark Angels before years end
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Post by Hizack on Aug 22, 2012 17:56:33 GMT -5
Oh please be only January for Tau, please only January!
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Post by LizardTau on Aug 22, 2012 18:10:38 GMT -5
ohh cant wait for tau, might have to ask for money/nexus gift cards for Christmas
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Post by qward on Aug 22, 2012 22:35:10 GMT -5
I just want a picture of the new chaos flyer so i can start planing my scratch built to go with it.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 10, 2012 10:31:11 GMT -5
via Anonymous Source there is no other release planned for the rest of this month. November and December will have 2 releases. both second releases will launch in the third week
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 10, 2012 10:37:58 GMT -5
There is a lot regarding what is coming in the near future in this rumor set. Its hard to figure out with so many things on the near horizon, exactly the order of things, but this at least gives us an idea on what we might be seeing through the end of this year, and into the next.
Please remember that these are rumors
via Stickmonkey over on Warseer In August I said early next year, in the first post I said my sources are still saying early next year, but that my personal view is they it's probably q2/3. Listen, I don't know with any iron clad certainty when anything will hit, but I do look at the 2 months left in this year and then 6 months for the first half of next and add 1 and 1 to get 2.
If Hastings is right, and Harry is accurate, which those guys normally are, then we have 3 wfb army releases, a LOTR release or two, a wfb wave release, and 2 40k codexes that are all pretty much what I've heard...ALL before Tau or Eldar. That's 8 months and eight things pretty solidly rumored ahead of tau. My sources tell me early next year, I assume that's the first half of the year. But logic tells me not with the stack of items ahead of tau. So that's why I say q2/3. I figure the lot of you are reasonably smart and can deduce the same from all the other rumors out there, so I didn't feel a need to explain it in detail.
But I will put my stick in the sand.
Nov - rumored WoC model wave (Harry, somewhat confirmed by Hastings) Nov/Dec - DA. ( me, Hastings, others, pretty much looks like it will be a rare codex release in Dec to me despite historical precedent, however if WoC is only a wave release maybe, just maybe they will be in Nov.) Dec - Hobbit (LOTR, pretty much a shoe in based on the shareholders meeting) Dec - bloodbowl ( I don't have anything on this, but there has been a lot of speculation and hinting of something else special and signs point to a BB set. My take - I think this will be GDUK2013 surprise release and we won't see it this year) Jan - Daemons ( me, Harry somewhat, Hastings, all have Jan as a double dipping of wfb and 40k daemons following up on the August wd update) Feb - WoC wfb (I think Harry, others, full army book for WoC) Mar - LOTR ( I don't follow the LOTR dev much, but things I have heard lead me to believe there is a big release slotted either here or April) April - 40k supplemental wave ( this is where the chatter I hear has a bunch of wave releases for 40k, could be the delayed 2nd wave of flyers, or possibly the ork wave I've heard of...) May - wfb High Elves (Harry I think, others)
June - assuming I'm close with my above. Then the first slot Tau could occupy is June. I have nothing penciled in here. July - 40k expansion book (allies? Terrain?) and supporting models (me. This should firm up in the spring for sure, but my info all points to a book expansion for 40k in July) August on - your guess is as good as mine, but I expect a big box release with GDUK which I have pencilled in as Blood bowl as mentioned above. August is likely a fantasy release based on my info, could be Dwarves or more Men. And then my info points to another marine dex before year end and eldar...but logic seems to dictate two codexes between September and year end is unlikely...but so it w this year and most rumormongers are expecting a second codex before year end. So there you have it. That's pretty much the logic I have behind the release schedule. Feel free to pick it apart, it just my best guesses based on how and who I have heard things from.
Hastings has repeatedly said that the tau are the first exclusively 40k codex next year, and that they are early next year. I am not one to go against Hastings, it's entirely plausible the April slot is tau and I have information wrong. However, my sources are pointing to this 40k supplement book expanding on allies somehow, and how better to promote that than a closely released Tau book, who fluff wise rely on allies heavily? It makes marketing sense, but I guess the argument is when has gw made sense?
Also, with regard to faeit's rumors update.
I can definitely see the supposed cc option being a close range hail of fire unit when it comes to tau. But my sources call it a cc variant, so that's what im reporting.
I heard a long time ago about tau, nid, ork, and eldar terrain being worked on, I can certainly see these coming with codex releases as fortifications. Xenos terrain is sorely missing, but the question is can they sell it? I think if it's army themed and in the codex they can.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 19, 2012 13:48:31 GMT -5
...heard a rumour that Dark Angels will be up for pre-order near the end of December....
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Dec 18, 2012 12:46:53 GMT -5
via Larry Vela on Bols Here's the latest out there on the grapevine regarding both Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40,000 in the months ahead.
via the little birdies: Q1 Late-December-January: Dark Angels February-March: Chaos Daemons (still LOTS of chatter of a synchronized release of 40k/WFB Daemons books like Games Workshop did last time) March: 40K Miniatures Wave ALPHA (see below) Another Hobbit release wave is in this quarter as well.
Q2 April: Warhammer Fantasy Armybook May: Tau Empire June: 40K Miniatures Wave BETA (see below)
40K Miniatures waves are said to be: Ork wave: with buggy, wartrack, updated Battlewagon, coptas, flashgitz, and tankbustas Flyer wave: with: Eldar, Tau, Tyranid, Dark Eldar kits The order of those two waves is in contention, but both keep coming up in chatter.
WFB Army books for 2013 are said to be "pointy ears and 8-pointed star" variety
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 18, 2013 13:27:31 GMT -5
From Faeit:
"Most of us were caught surprised that Warriors of Chaos were released. We probably should not have been, but the rumor mill was behind the game on the release when it came to the release of the army book. On this end, I tend to receive a lot less info regarding fantasy than 40k.
One of my most accurate sources sent me this email. We have had this confusion before, regarding pre-release dates are in the calendar month ahead of the release with Hastings and again with other rumor sources. Both White Dwarf and pre-releases are on the calendar month ahead of their release or issued month,
The next White Dwarf will contain Daemons, as many other rumor sources as well are pointing to. The following White Dwarf which would already be being worked on, is flyers. I would imagine since its being worked on, that is how we started receiving rumors of the release.
Please remember that these are rumors.
via anonymous Nothing was wrong with the dates I provided, I guess I just wasn't clear. Febuary WD is daemons, march WD is flyers. At least, in so far as the white dwarf released in feb, etc. The white dwarf released in december had DAngels for instance.
It's back to back releases with a heavier focus on 40k for the next year to two years to get all the army books up to date. Then expect new units in white dwarf releases and army updates to spot fill anything that needs a boost here or there. Then it will be a primary focus on expansions and supplements as opposed to just a revolving door of codexes.
6th edition is here to stay."
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