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Post by voodoo on Nov 25, 2019 12:54:04 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 25, 2019 13:45:45 GMT -5
interesting... agree crons and gk need a reduction and elder flyers need an increase... makes sense
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Post by trantos01 on Nov 25, 2019 17:44:34 GMT -5
Even if the Praetorians get a point drop, I still don't see them being very useful. Necrons are all about the characters giving the buffs to a given dynasty (aside from a special character). Praetorians miss out on a ton of the rerolls, buffs etc that just about every other Necron infantry unit gets.
So while a point reduction is nice, the unit itself needs a bit of reworking.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 25, 2019 21:40:36 GMT -5
Even if the Praetorians get a point drop, I still don't see them being very useful. Necrons are all about the characters giving the buffs to a given dynasty (aside from a special character). Praetorians miss out on a ton of the rerolls, buffs etc that just about every other Necron infantry unit gets. So while a point reduction is nice, the unit itself needs a bit of reworking. point drop and the dynasty keyword and they would be pretty great |
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Post by trantos01 on Nov 25, 2019 22:05:51 GMT -5
Even if the Praetorians get a point drop, I still don't see them being very useful. Necrons are all about the characters giving the buffs to a given dynasty (aside from a special character). Praetorians miss out on a ton of the rerolls, buffs etc that just about every other Necron infantry unit gets. So while a point reduction is nice, the unit itself needs a bit of reworking. point drop and the dynasty keyword and they would be pretty great Guess it depends on the list you're designing. They might have the toughness of a lychguard (without the invul possibility) but in terms of damage output they kind of suck. At most they do three points of damage in melee with the voidblades and even less at range.
If I want melee guys (that would by nature be splitting from the main gunline/blob) I'd take a wraith squad.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 28, 2019 6:41:27 GMT -5
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Post by trantos01 on Nov 30, 2019 16:20:01 GMT -5
Interesting. With the point changes Orikan is just ten points more than a normal Chrono Cryptek. Downside is that he can't take relics but on the upside he has a 6' bubble of invul that works in melee as well as ranged. How about that; Flayed Ones went down to 13. That's actually cheap enough for people to potentially try a horde of the things. And wraiths got another point drop.....I am OK with this.
Heh, silly GW. Dropping the A. Barge, Obelisk, Monolith and Deathmark costs still aren't going to make the units good.
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Post by StepwisePilot on Nov 30, 2019 18:49:05 GMT -5
I have a question (I can't view the link of leaks at the moment, so I can't check myself).
Do forgeworld units tend to be affected by Chapter Approved, or are their points separate?
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Post by LizardTau on Nov 30, 2019 19:52:03 GMT -5
they usually are in chapter approved but from what i see there isnt any changes, unless its separate for some reason this time.
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Post by StepwisePilot on Nov 30, 2019 20:14:08 GMT -5
Alright, thanks.
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Post by LizardTau on Nov 30, 2019 21:17:36 GMT -5
There must be some changes in the chapter approved I just saw a pic of space marine forge world stuff. So maybe other stuff just hasn't been leaked yet.
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Post by macstern on Dec 1, 2019 1:04:35 GMT -5
There must be some changes in the chapter approved I just saw a pic of space marine forge world stuff. So maybe other stuff just hasn't been leaked yet. space marines themselves stayed pretty much the same. Points drops in the cool space marines like dark angels, space wolves, grey knights. The latter which got almost every unit dropped according to reviews. gsc seems to got some nerf batting. Chaos made out decent from what I can tell. Also looks like Tau might be slightly better after points drops. Levi had no changes it would seem, need to sell more models yet I guess  . |
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Post by LizardTau on Dec 1, 2019 7:22:29 GMT -5
The levithan ccw and melta cyclone or what ever it's called went down in points.
Probably to incentivize anything but storm cannons and grav flux lol
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Post by raceygaming on Dec 1, 2019 9:21:01 GMT -5
Pretty happy with Orks, looks like they are pushing the mad max theme. you are seeing deffkoptas down 10, all the buggies down 20-40%! (30-60 pts) so look for more of this I guess. Some how in the CA when all named character went down, Ghaz is still 235 which is crazy.
Tau look like they did pretty well. no nerfs at all which feel surprising, Stealth, Ghostkeels and Surges all went down a good amount, Surges might become a problem at the competitive level ( 3x will bring you in just under 1000 pts). Crisis are still in that mediocre range.
I don't see tau list changing that much from the 'Optimal' build of tides, commanders, drones and markerlights.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Dec 1, 2019 10:34:49 GMT -5
gsc got hit pretty hard... sigh....
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