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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Apr 13, 2021 16:05:33 GMT -5
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Post by trantos01 on Apr 13, 2021 16:14:13 GMT -5
Yeah, the new Arc weapons make life hazardous for vehicles. I can't remember how many Arc rifles you can put in a squad but it's looking like the Admech will have some very nasty damage output.
I forget, do Knights have the vehicles keyword?
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Post by LizardTau on Apr 13, 2021 16:21:33 GMT -5
Yeah, the new Arc weapons make life hazardous for vehicles. I can't remember how many Arc rifles you can put in a squad but it's looking like the Admech will have some very nasty damage output. I forget, do Knights have the vehicles keyword? Yes they do. |
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Post by voodoo on Apr 13, 2021 22:09:00 GMT -5
Rofl, so much for my hope they wouldn't just be a sit and vorp gunline...
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Post by cmcd on Apr 14, 2021 0:33:39 GMT -5
The must have gotten the Guard reinforcements from last week. many guardsmen died in the making of those weapons |
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Post by raceygaming on Apr 14, 2021 8:39:00 GMT -5
So looking at the admech stuff this feel like a way to soften up the in incoming nerf.
A lot of these weapons look really solid at 4+ BS when they arent getting +1 and re-roll from like 6 different sources.
Weapons getting more shots, AP and damage is great if you can see that they are about to lose a ton those thier 3x +1 to hit abilities, cawl is losing the re-roll aura. I also think admech has a chance to do a lot with the core keyword.
I think this is a good start to fixing admech base line stats.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Apr 14, 2021 9:00:05 GMT -5
So looking at the admech stuff this feel like a way to soften up the in incoming nerf. A lot of these weapons look really solid at 4+ BS when they arent getting +1 and re-roll from like 6 different sources. Weapons getting more shots, AP and damage is great if you can see that they are about to lose a ton those thier 3x +1 to hit abilities, cawl is losing the re-roll aura. I also think admech has a chance to do a lot with the core keyword. I think this is a good start to fixing admech base line stats. This was my reaction too, I think Canticles is probably about to get a total rewrite, and Cawl's mandatory includsion in every list is going to be called into question. Either Admech is about to become top-tier soul crushing strong, or a massive nerf bat swing is on the way. |
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Post by raceygaming on Apr 14, 2021 10:30:29 GMT -5
I think Cawl will fall into line with a chapter master. Choose 1 core unit for full re-rolls, otherwise just re-roll 1s.
I hope they do something like Domonius re-roll 1s for admech , and datasmiths re-rolls 1s for skittari. Some sort of separation in the two groups.
I think if the robots and tanks losing re-roll will be enough to bring them in line with other stuff.
I'd like to see some other melee options other than the priest who will lose the 3++ ability like every one else did.
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Post by trantos01 on May 17, 2021 11:50:06 GMT -5
While I admit I tend to view things through a Necron-centric lens, I do see parallels in some of the dogmas and stratagems.
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Post by voodoo on May 17, 2021 15:01:18 GMT -5
I can see Graia and Stygies 8 being big front runners.
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Post by trantos01 on May 17, 2021 15:27:23 GMT -5
I can see Graia and Stygies 8 being big front runners. Yeah -1 to hit is always nice. Particularly since the Admech tend to be a shooting army and so are perfectly happy to keep at range.
Though Lucius can potentially be a tough nut to crack. Their dogma gives +1 armor against d1 weapons and extra range. Meaning those high volume, low damage weapons you normally use to sweep away infantry or chip away at vehicles start having issues.
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Post by voodoo on May 17, 2021 16:02:48 GMT -5
With the prevalence of "must kill primaris" guns out there and having everyone tooled for multiple damage output, I thought that would be less useful, though their deep-strike shenanigans are kind of cool. Imagine a big unit of the horsey-boys arriving out of deep strike, flamering something off the board then charging someone else.
It'll open up some cool combos with multiple forge worlds all in the same army across different detachments.
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