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Post by macstern on Jul 21, 2021 8:06:04 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 21, 2021 8:55:26 GMT -5
you can make fan-art so long as you're not copying any GW images or making money off it and you have to say it's unofficial (good luck enforcing that!)
But apparently no fan films at all... which is rather odd since they hired the last bunch of people that made fan films
Guess they really, really want Warhammer+ to work out?
GW has really had a litigious past for certain... I can see them saying "you 3D print or pirate our stuff and we're going after you" because that makes sense. But going after someone making a fan-film / art? That's just bonkers.
Oh and because I print out copies of their missions for tournaments does that mean I'm infringing copyright too? I mean I don't really care, I'm doing it anyways...lol
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jul 21, 2021 9:17:48 GMT -5
From the perspective of "Games Workshop is a business", these are all entirely reasonable policies.
I can't seem them going beyond a strongly worded cease-and-desist letter unless they are clearly blatantly violating the rules and selling printed copies or reproductions of copyrighted artwork.
I also feel like this is the pendulum swinging the other way. After GW hired all the talented folks making fan-made-unofficial animations, there's probably a ton of other talented artist folks out there who thought to themselves "oh I can just make some warhammer art/animations and get hired/absorbed by Gamesworkshop", so they need to make it fairly clear you can't try to circumvent their newly-officialized staff hiring processes for animators and artists by just cranking out your own stuff.
For the record, I'm not siding with GW here. It sucks to see them have to clamp down on this, but at the same time the explanation on that page itself is very true. If they allow everyone with enough talent and skill to just rip off their IP and profit from it, those are dollars not going to GW, and actively take away from GW producing more of the things we are fans of.
This is a tough line to walk, and as much as there's folks out there cursing GW for "ruining" their fan-art dreams, they provided ways you can still publish and show your awesome work to the world without infringing.
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Post by raceygaming on Jul 21, 2021 9:39:21 GMT -5
This is literally the slippery slope of GW content that was I worried about, they took a sub par approach to launching parts of the IP, because it looked to make more money now rather than slow and steady and build up the film/movie IP and then cash in. GW would have been far wiser to do something like a limited 6 episode mini series in the route of Castlevania. THEN launch warhammer+.
I'm really hoping it doesn't spill into the hobby side but lets face it with such limited content on their Warhammer+, they are going to have a do things like painting demo or casting games or lore discussions etc. While there is already a super good market for that on You Tube and if they are struggling to compete why not just slap C&D orders on channels that are " competition" using your own IP or force those channels into really shitting profit sharing deals.
Also under "fan sites", point 3 "Not post or display rules or stats copied from from any official Games Workshop material" how the hell are things like independent codex reviews, any site they hosts leaks or spoilers as new codex come out, or of course the elephant in the room BATTLESCRIBE.
This is really a broad stroke "rule" that is gonna lead to some nasty fall out
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 21, 2021 10:49:42 GMT -5
well... I'm not surprised they don't want leaks and spoilers outside of what they can control
But they've tried to clamp down on that for years, and it's done nothing. Same as 3D printing. Good luck controlling China or Russia lol
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Post by lightcavalier on Jul 21, 2021 12:24:55 GMT -5
well... I'm not surprised they don't want leaks and spoilers outside of what they can control But they've tried to clamp down on that for years, and it's done nothing. Same as 3D printing. Good luck controlling China or Russia lol Fun fact...when it comes to fan art (including fan films) non-monetized ones are protected here by the Canada Copyright Modernization Act. |
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Post by Malarks on Jul 21, 2021 13:01:16 GMT -5
So what is this going to mean for the painting channels? Are they going to just have to stop using GW products? Are they going to have to take down existing content featuring GW products?
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 21, 2021 13:58:40 GMT -5
So what is this going to mean for the painting channels? Are they going to just have to stop using GW products? Are they going to have to take down existing content featuring GW products? naw, they'll keep going as normal... just like they always have... if they get a cease and desist from geedubs they'll just use scale 70 or Vallejo paint instead  |
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Post by cmcd on Jul 21, 2021 17:30:32 GMT -5
My favourite part of that is, the very end.
“ Reporting your concerns
There’s a lot of stuff out there in the world. If you see anything that you’re worried about or think that we should know about then drop us an email at infringements@gwplc.com. Please provide as much detail as possible and include links to the infringing material. We appreciate your support.”
I feel this is misnamed. My concerns are to your strictness. Not being your inquisition.
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Post by StepwisePilot on Jul 21, 2021 18:14:41 GMT -5
So what is this going to mean for the painting channels? Are they going to just have to stop using GW products? Are they going to have to take down existing content featuring GW products? naw, they'll keep going as normal... just like they always have... if they get a cease and desist from geedubs they'll just use scale 70 or Vallejo paint instead There is also a large amount of other games, or even just models in general, that they can paint in the event that GW gets really annoying and even says they can't paint GW models on their channels. So yeah, I think mini painting channels are safe. |
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Post by voodoo on Jul 22, 2021 10:34:43 GMT -5
As a side note, if there's some 3rd party bits and/or chinese recaster stuff from FW you're after, do it soon; as I feel like all of this is going to build to a new round of lawsuits.
"counterfeit models - our products must not be reproduced and sold.
imitation models - our products must not be imitated. Imitators produce models which copy heavily from Games Workshop’s artwork, books or products."
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Post by raceygaming on Jul 22, 2021 16:08:23 GMT -5
As a side note, if there's some 3rd party bits and/or chinese recaster stuff from FW you're after, do it soon; as I feel like all of this is going to build to a new round of lawsuits. "counterfeit models - our products must not be reproduced and sold. imitation models - our products must not be imitated. Imitators produce models which copy heavily from Games Workshop’s artwork, books or products." I'll admit that I'm curious to see about companies like Kromlech ,Artel W, creature caster, and even Raging Heroes. These are now well establish model makers. I feel like maybe they are a little too big for GW to go after and this is more for recast and such but it does raise some eyebrows. At what point are you copying GW vs lets say a Kromlech ORC?? |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 22, 2021 17:16:55 GMT -5
I think anything orc and elf is pretty safe, given the concepts existed WAY before GW.
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