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Post by fumj79 on Jul 31, 2021 11:15:31 GMT -5
Hey everyone,
New guy here. Started building my Sisters army recently and I’ve found a few tournament lists but stuff I’ve found is a bit sparse. If you know Magic the Gathering I’m used to stuff like Star City Games, Channel Fireball, MTGO Goldfish with lots of deck lists. Anyone suggest any 40K sites? I’ve checked out Goonhammer, Spikeybits. Looking for competitive lists no jank homebrews.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jul 31, 2021 16:02:53 GMT -5
Other than Goonhammer and Art Of War, there aren't that many sites that are going to focus on just tons of lists for you to peruse the way the community exists in MTG. You could use Best Coast Pairings to read people's lists from competitive events but that's not the full equation because it doesn't show _how_ they are using the list.
You'll find that in warhammer as a whole, as well as 40k that the list isn't the only factor, and that copy-pasting or trying to pilot someone else's list they wrote ala MTG style will often not produce the same results. The meta is 40k is incredibly fluid, and even when times occur where a truly broken list-template emerges it is typically quickly countered, or nerfed/made-illegal/etc by GW.
As someone who has played highly competitive MTG (I played Standard, Extended and Type 1 at tournament/competitive levels all quite extensively years ago), I think you'll quickly find that warhammer is extremely different in terms of list building and tactics than trading card games. In MTG and most other TCGs, the decklist kind of is the sum of the equations, the math, the tactics, etc. In Warhammer, the list is merely a single component. There's mission, opponent, tactics, timing, movement/measurement, terrain/table, and above all, dice and LOTS of rng.
There's a reason there's literally hundreds of sites for MTG decklists, and shops where you can literally copy-paste your decklist into your shopping cart and press BUY, where that essentially doesn't exist in warhammer because it doesn't make sense to.
Perhaps some insight into _why_ your looking for lists might help us direct you a little bit, for example if you are trying to figure out what you might want to expand your army with, or what a typical sisters army looks like, or how the army might play on the battlefield, there are several battle report channels out there on both twitch and youtube that would be great resources for you that we can recommend, such as Table Top Titans, Art Of War, Glasshammer Gaming, and many more.
Hopefully you'll find something above useful, but more insight into what your looking for could go a long way. We have a lot of folks from different mindsets in our community, and I'm sure we can direct you to insight(s) you are looking for.
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Post by fumj79 on Jul 31, 2021 17:12:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the insights Frosty. I certainly know what you mean in terms of truly piloting a list versus playing someone else’s. I know I have a big learning curve ahead of me for 40k. I’m just looking to see what people are typically running in Sisters for a place start so I can get my army on the table and start learning. I’m not so much looking for “the broken list”. I’m just in the process of assembling models and deciding on load outs. For example in the time period between looking at lists when I put in orders for some of my stuff I’ve seen people start to include more Dominions and Celestion Sacrosaints compared to some of the sort-of “stock” bloody rose lists I was looking at before.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jul 31, 2021 17:37:11 GMT -5
Makes sense! One thing that's really great is since the sisters book is brand new there are a lot of opinions just freshly released, and the book is kind of still in its honeymoon period where there's a lot of debate about what build(s) are strong. That also means there's a lack of data as well as we haven't had too many GT level events yet, through I do recall sisters did win a major just last week iirc.
Table Top Titans have played at least a couple Sisters battles lately and are high quality and entertaining to watch, as well as use Pastebin to show their lists, which could give you some ideas. I'd recommend throwing their recent Codex Launch sisters report on while you assemble as a starting point, and I'm sure a few of our local sisters players can point you in the right direction. (Unfortunately I'm less than useless for Sisters specific stuff, but there's a few faithful who will find this post before too long)
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 1, 2021 17:28:49 GMT -5
I also will recommend tabletop titans. They do a LOT of battle reports, including sisters, and will do different list highlighting the differing playstyles of the orders - and this is from the competitive mindset. They will also take questions during games and answer them during slow parts (ie: movement phases) so it's quite entertaining.
They also do indepth codex reviews as well, and they've done them for sisters (I also play sisters)
Goonhammer has a fantastic getting started article for sisters as well.
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