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Post by lightcavalier on Oct 5, 2021 17:30:03 GMT -5
I mean there is already a marine army who can have units in the assult doctrine first turn, with plus one attack (that does stack with shock assault) but they also get plus one to charge and plus one to wound. But can they shoot in tactical doctrine, then assault you and be in assault doctrine in the same turn? Accept Any Challenge isnt anything special compared to something like White Scars for sure.....but aside from not being able to fall back its actually a comically flexible ability that can save/economize CP/WL Trait/Relic compared to what they get right now.
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 5, 2021 17:40:12 GMT -5
I mean there is already a marine army who can have units in the assult doctrine first turn, with plus one attack (that does stack with shock assault) but they also get plus one to charge and plus one to wound. But can they shoot in tactical doctrine, then assault you and be in assault doctrine in the same turn? Accept Any Challenge isnt anything special compared to something like White Scars for sure.....but aside from not being able to fall back its actually a comically flexible ability that can save/economize CP/WL Trait/Relic compared to what they get right now. That is very true the flexibility is amazing.
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Post by lightcavalier on Oct 6, 2021 9:48:51 GMT -5
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Post by artonas on Oct 6, 2021 10:06:00 GMT -5
The holy hand grenade!
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Post by raceygaming on Oct 6, 2021 10:07:18 GMT -5
Those are both really good little tricks in the back pocket. A terminator with 2+ ignore -1/-2 is great for a little tanking on some weight of fire. Like vs ork choppa's or bolter fire.
The always fight last is incredible. Having a unit that can slap some wyches or other glass cannon unit before it swings is great.
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Post by trantos01 on Oct 6, 2021 18:25:01 GMT -5
Icon of Heinmann: Ignores -1 and -2 AP and you can put it on terminators (who can no doubt grab storm shields as well). -facepalm- Hey GW, if you wanted to make it mandatory for me to bring the Nightbringer Shard in every single one of my lists; just say it to my face.
Because the only other things that get above AP-2 on my lists are Lychguard, Novoth Wraiths on the charge and Doomsday cannons. Mephrit guns have a chance of getting to be AP-3 but they need to be at half range, easily within charge distance of the terminators.
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Post by lightcavalier on Oct 8, 2021 8:19:01 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 8, 2021 9:02:25 GMT -5
The Psalm of Remorseless Persecution is pretty nasty on a big squad of chainsword primaris with all those attacks... pretty easily get those 6 mortals.
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Post by Typhus on Oct 8, 2021 12:22:33 GMT -5
RIP Devout Push
You were far, far too cheesy for this world.
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Post by lightcavalier on Oct 8, 2021 13:26:33 GMT -5
RIP Devout Push You were far, far too cheesy for this world. Ill still totally pay 1 CP to devout push on the bottom of T5 IOT claim an objective....or more amusingly deny the player going 2nd an objective if possible
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Post by Typhus on Oct 8, 2021 13:30:34 GMT -5
RIP Devout Push You were far, far too cheesy for this world. Ill still totally pay 1 CP to devout push on the bottom of T5 IOT claim an objective....or more amusingly deny the player going 2nd an objective if possible It's still incredibly good, but it used to be way more broken.
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Post by lightcavalier on Oct 8, 2021 13:40:47 GMT -5
Oh tracking, it was silly before.
I used it in one game and the other guy was like "you can do that".....to which the only answer was "apparently yes".
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Post by lightcavalier on Oct 9, 2021 5:01:13 GMT -5
Uphold the honour of the emperor
Army wide 5++ 1-2 to wound always fail
Never benefits from light cover
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Post by lightcavalier on Oct 9, 2021 5:03:14 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 9, 2021 6:38:13 GMT -5
wow Helbrecht seems pretty brutal
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