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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Sept 21, 2021 19:22:07 GMT -5
About 90% of the allure of the Sicarians is they look cool and i have the STLs to print them with the resin printer. Cuz it looks cool is the best answer yet to why to run something
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Post by voodoo on Sept 22, 2021 9:24:55 GMT -5
Very true, it's what drew me to the Sicaran in the first place. I had no idea what their rules were, I saw them and my "need-that-miniature" gland began flooding my brain with the "buy-now" chemicals.
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Post by raceygaming on Sept 22, 2021 9:50:35 GMT -5
So I did look into them they move really fast 14" and have a 2+ natively. Do they get All is Dust? cause a 1+ battle tank vs small arms seems pretty solid.
I assume that the support the Sicaran is providing is ranged anti-tank so while I think the Las cannon one that can do d6 or flat 6 at 48" seems good, I think the best one is the bucket of dice that the auto cannon/las cannon one does. Moves fast and dumps 2x S9 -3 d6 and 6x S7 -2 3D. Use the Infernal master turn 1/2 to bump that up to S10 and S8 and you can pick up pretty much anything at 48", even with damage reduction. Then on turn 3+ infernal master can go back to buffing bolters to pick up units and close fire support.
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Post by artonas on Sept 22, 2021 10:09:20 GMT -5
Man I wish that I could give All is dust to more then just rubrics and SoT. Anything that gets the Tsons keyword gets a 5++ which is great for helbrutes and any FW stuff that didn't start with an invul.
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Post by voodoo on Sept 22, 2021 10:12:50 GMT -5
Sadly no they wouldn't get All is Dust; but they do gain Arcana Astartes, so would have a 2+/5++. Still a very viable gun platform to be certain.
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Post by raceygaming on Sept 22, 2021 10:45:27 GMT -5
So I know it's not quite the same since you like the sicaran but if you take 1 sicaran it gets you enough points to grab a maulefiend and 2 spawn.
The 2x1 spawn I think would help this army in case you need a throw away unit to grab an objective or tie up a gun platform. (A riptide for example couldn't fight out of a spawn)
As for the maulerfiend, have they always been this good? It fights like a redemptor moves like a contemptor, heals and 5++. Those 6x d3+3 will put down anything in the T8 armour category that your bolters might have trouble with and can also slap away any terminator style units with that min 4 damage. For 140 pts that seems like a steal.
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Post by voodoo on Sept 22, 2021 10:53:25 GMT -5
The only piece I don't like about Sicarans is that each one also costs you a CP to bring due to their "Martial Legacy" rule.
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Post by matthewbri on Sept 22, 2021 13:59:19 GMT -5
I'll consider the maulerfiend but i'm not a huge fan of how they look; i really want a very "30k" looking army. I'm also trying to keep costs down- technically with this list all i have to buy is another box or two of rubrics for 2k, and then print my tanks.
Unless voodoo has some cool maulerfiends alternates up his sleeve.
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Post by voodoo on Sept 22, 2021 14:09:05 GMT -5
Sadly no, at least not inexpensive ones. The best options for them are the old Tomb King Khemrian Necrosphinx crossed with a Warsphinx; but they're like... $200 on Ebay right now.
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Post by matthewbri on Sept 22, 2021 14:16:16 GMT -5
Sicarans it is then! I found cool tsons covers for the sponsons and a cool plasma turret, so i'm gonna use that for the regular sicaran.
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