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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Nov 8, 2021 13:46:58 GMT -5
thank you for the insight.
Yeah, the friend I'm asking on behalf of isn't trying to copy-pasta the top build or anything. It's just hard to find Ork advice that _isn't_ to the tune of "go copy things from the top build and you list will improve" right now, so it's more because the internet-hive-mind has devolved due to the freebooterz balance situation, at least in terms of trying to look for ork list building advice.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 8, 2021 14:01:56 GMT -5
I am interested to see what the 2 new speakfreaks and lood axes will do to open the ork meta. Goonhammer just did a review of the new speedfreaks... apparently it dials buggy lists up big time, but also makes warbikers pretty damn good. I'm interested myself in this - minus the buggy spam because I think that's a dead-end shortly due to the incoming nerfbat and those are pricey models to just have sit on a shelf when the inevitable happens!
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Post by raceygaming on Nov 8, 2021 20:46:16 GMT -5
Ya I think planes are going up 15 pts base, scrapjet and squig buggies are going up 10 ppm and I'm hoping some of the other buggies go down 5 ppm.
So in the really light spam lists that's 45 pts on planes, 60 pts on buggies. In some of the heavier spam lists that 180 pts.
Now I will admit the new speed freaks coming in I think the buggies might get a slap on the wrist and the planes might take a bigger nerf since they want people playing new speed waaagh.
I do think the blood axe have some pretty cool stuff coming out. The big one is the kommando strat that is 1 cp, you loss all charge bonuses, are hit with always'stikes last and -1 to hit them. So that's pretty crazy on a blob of 15 of them.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Nov 9, 2021 7:36:12 GMT -5
I think the problem is the Freebooterz proc to boost BS. Change the Freebooterz faction trait to be triggered by any Freebooterz unit but only Freebooterz CORE gets the boost.
Bam. Flash Gitz, Warbikers, Shoota Boyz are still awesome, meanwhile Dakkajets and Buggies are not longer able to get the boost. Build broken, 99.9% of Ork players unaffected.
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