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Post by raceygaming on Dec 27, 2022 9:51:49 GMT -5
Is the idea that these are going be the balance data sheets that come out with the point to deal with the biggest offenders right now or is that rumor of what is coming after the point balance.
I'm not really going to believe any point/ datasheet rumor that don't cover off some of the new and most abusive guard stuff.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Dec 27, 2022 10:45:43 GMT -5
At this point the official drop is coming in like 10-15 days.
I'm just going to wait instead of trying to sift through rumors this time.
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Post by cmcd on Dec 27, 2022 15:45:58 GMT -5
Rumors but more credible this time about next dataslate/points/mission pack -necron secondaries nerfed - All secondaries are getting changed out. i feel like this is salty.
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Post by trantos01 on Dec 27, 2022 16:48:52 GMT -5
And according to the rumours the Votann are getting another price hike (5%).
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Post by Typhus on Dec 27, 2022 17:20:27 GMT -5
Space Marines of all varieties are barely clinging to life thanks to Armour of Contempt - and in a lot of cases represent some of the weakest armies, at this point. I doubt we'll see it gone.
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Post by lightcavalier on Dec 28, 2022 5:24:57 GMT -5
Rofl and Brad Chester just got booted from Art of War for breaking gheir nda w GW for discussing the info above on the death or glory stream
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Post by lightcavalier on Dec 28, 2022 5:33:06 GMT -5
Which kends some credence
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Dec 28, 2022 7:42:09 GMT -5
but again... we don't know the whole picture, only bits and pieces. It might turn out awesome... Nephilim has way more good than bad in it for example. now if they'd just spiral bind the damn thing.
so the moral of the story is Brad Chester is an idiot? getting caught breaking an NDA with GW is not exactly consequence free. Just so some randoms listening to your podcast can get some rumours? not a great choice.
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Post by raceygaming on Dec 28, 2022 9:09:14 GMT -5
Well it sounds like one way or another the release date is Jan 14th from all the sources I've seen.
So not such a long wait to find out how crazy this might get.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Dec 28, 2022 11:30:26 GMT -5
Tactical tortoise on YouTube goes over all the changes (can't link as I'm in the office today for work). Lots of info not in the original Reddit post.
If true space marine players will be extremely happy, and Tyranid players will be very, very upset.
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Post by distractedcarnifex on Dec 28, 2022 12:23:42 GMT -5
The new Space Marine points floating around in the rumours look positive. I think that SM vehicles could have kept Armour of Contempt without breaking the game.
Would be very happy to see the Harlie invul change to 5++.
Would also be happy to see Necron and Sisters Secondaries made less “auto-win.”
Oh - the Tzeench Flamer change looks interesting.
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Post by sean on Dec 28, 2022 13:12:03 GMT -5
I really hope the harlequin change isn't true, that will kill the faction. I think troupes going up +2ppm and starweavers going up a bit, and maybe making the faction stratagems an extra CP, would have done the trick. They also had good secondaries which are apparently getting changed too. They were right on the border 55% of what GW says is ok, and reducing their survivability by a third, points increases, and changes to secondaries seems drastic. It looks like the patented GW triple nerf.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Dec 28, 2022 14:11:43 GMT -5
so the moral of the story is Brad Chester is an idiot? getting caught breaking an NDA with GW is not exactly consequence free. Just so some randoms listening to your podcast can get some rumours? not a great choice. The second-hand information on reddit is that basically towards the end of his stream he "became rather intoxicated", and Youtube flagged the stream/video as violating the TOS because he apparently made a number of what was termed "unsavoury derogatory jokes". Apparently this meant AoW had to cut ties with him otherwise they could be reprimanded by youtube, including punishment as harsh as being removed/banned from youtube completely. It's "theorized" by folks that breaking the NDA was the "real" cause, but we can't know that for sure, only AoW and GW can assess that. Youtube is _incredibly_ strict with enforcing their TOS policies, and in my mind, it's far more likely this is the actual root cause of his departure from AoW.
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Post by kaelon on Dec 29, 2022 0:18:20 GMT -5
The new Space Marine points floating around in the rumours look positive. I think that SM vehicles could have kept Armour of Contempt without breaking the game. Would be very happy to see the Harlie invul change to 5++. Would also be happy to see Necron and Sisters Secondaries made less “auto-win.” Oh - the Tzeench Flamer change looks interesting. Blasphemy harlies should always have a 4+ invul they can't go back to 7th edition
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Dec 29, 2022 6:49:15 GMT -5
I agree Kaelon... harlies should stay with a 4++
also weird that the leak says flamers will hit on 4+ when they have a 3+ Ballistic Skill.
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