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Post by minmuffin on Nov 22, 2012 16:41:16 GMT -5
Hey i was woundering if there was a problem with using a ipad for warhammer codexs and army list would this be a problem with everyone and would this be a problem in a tourament at nexus and else were
i only ask cause you can get pdfs of every book using torrents and you can buy them at apple store now i dont want to take sells way from the store but i do get tried of bring a bounch of book and white dwarfs and paper for faqs. i alrady own most of them anyway im just not to keen on the ldea of the new price of 60$ a codex i rather buy minatures
just throught out the idea of this and want to see what people thought and what the policy would be
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Post by harryf on Nov 22, 2012 16:45:13 GMT -5
if you DID buy the codex, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Nov 22, 2012 16:50:24 GMT -5
I would have a problem unless you bought it from GW librairy...
Also I know its freaking expensive new price but Im pretty sure Mike will have a problem too because hes selling those books
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Post by connor on Nov 22, 2012 16:58:02 GMT -5
to use the actual army you should have the book, or the ipad virtual book although I prefer a hard copy personally. I also think you should have a pdf of every codex to just be able to look at the rules to every army, I do this and I sometimes know my opponents codex better than they do.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Nov 22, 2012 17:13:35 GMT -5
yeah I have pdf of all the book too and its good to have but I will bring the real book to a tournament
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Post by calitom on Nov 22, 2012 21:33:36 GMT -5
I'll likely be bringing my new ipad when I get it with my chaos codex on it simply because it beats carrying the hard cover book around, though I did purchase the physical copy too. But that's just me.
However you still need a physical copy of your army list to give to Mike so he can check everything etc.
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Post by BewareOfTom on Nov 24, 2012 2:29:54 GMT -5
well I dont see a problem if you use PDF for quick look up of rules but you still need the real thing be side you so your opponent cant whine are you
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Post by pmlizardmen on Nov 24, 2012 7:23:47 GMT -5
i dont see it as a problem. GW sells them for people to use its the next step in wargaming books. i have a friend that uses a pdf of his armies on his laptop and uses a printout for ternies. i would use an i pad and the pdf books but in a zombie outbreak once the i pad dies i wont have the books.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 24, 2012 9:44:10 GMT -5
if you want to play in a tourney around here you need to buy the book legally. If people just download the PDF and don't have the book, then Nexus doesn't sell any books. If people buy their models from online retailers Nexus doesn't sell any models. If Nexus doesn't sell books and models then Nexus doesn't exist. Simple as that. If you want a place to play, buy your book. I realize people have issues with GW pricing, but the cost of playing at Nexus is free. The way it stays open for all of us is by us buying product...
I've done tournies out of town... big ones... Nexus charges far less for their tournies and has MUCH bigger prize pools than even the big tournies I've been to lately...
buying your codex is the way to support the store we play in so they can keep the community alive, and still be able to offer the excellent player support we get here.
If you don't have a codex at any tournament I run, you'll have the opportunity of buying a codex off the shelf or not playing. Bringing a codex and a mini-rulebook with you is hardly difficult to do.
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Post by fritzthedwarf on Nov 24, 2012 10:35:29 GMT -5
What Shannon said^^!! Couldn't agree more.
I dislike GW and their business practices as much as anyone, and though I am loathe to give GW anymore money I still occassionally buy GW product (or other stuff at Nexus) because it is the only way to support having such a great place to play (I will likely soon purchase a winged tyrant (love the wings and plastic) even though I am seriously annoyed GW didn't include devourers or make the model so that you could arm it with all legal builds without conversion). I don't know about the rest of you, but Mike has one of the best places to play I have ever been at - with a huge gaming area. We are lucky to have his store in Kingston. But it is not free. If people stop buying stuff at Nexus than it goes away and so does the gaming area. Not everyone has a lot of dough but every little purchase through Mike helps to maintain the place.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 24, 2012 12:35:16 GMT -5
Fleshborer hives Mark... no one uses them as is (so they're plentiful) and they look fantastic on the monstrous creatures.... WAY better than those flimsy devourers! (that they don't give you anyways)... come check out my nids sometime to see how it looks!
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Post by pmlizardmen on Nov 25, 2012 20:47:25 GMT -5
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Post by calitom on Nov 25, 2012 20:52:23 GMT -5
He's trying to illustrate to local Kingston players the importance of purchasing product from the store itself rather then online or otherwise. If you don't live in Kingston then it doesn't apply to you.
Though I'm sure if you don't have an army book at the tournament, his previous statement will apply entirely still. No book, no play at a tourney is usually the rule so as to make life easier on everyone for rules debates.
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Post by pmlizardmen on Nov 25, 2012 22:12:18 GMT -5
what if the person is willing for the other person to hold there ipad to see the rules and stuff. it just seemes that everyone is over thinking this. and no i dont live in kingston but there is a store in my city. most people dont even know its there or that they sell warhammer. he has a huge salection of stuff and when you order its there within a week. i always buy the books as i dont like pdf's but for people that hate books and want to use the tecnology that is peovided to them and by the company that makes the game we all play. i understand how small buissness need support to stay open or they will not servive but its the persons choice how they get the proucts and if the person wants to only use PDF's no one can tell them they cant. putting a rule that forces people to buy a book is crazy. lastly me and my friends dont get to kingston for games that offten and seeing that my friend only has a PDF of his WHFB codex he wont be able to attend the next terny.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 26, 2012 6:45:38 GMT -5
1. GW does NOT sell PDF's of their books. If you're using a PDF it is not from GW and you've downloaded it illegally. Trying to defend being able to use that in a tourney is not about the use of technology, it's about not having to pay for your army book.
2. If you don't live here I'm not saying you need to buy your stuff from Nexus, I'm saying support your local store instead of buying from online resellers and stealing the army books.
3. There is already a rule in place that says you need to buy the book or in the case of a legal digital copy (which is not a PDF and EASILY can be checked to see if it's the real digital download as they have features not in a PDF like rotating pictures and stuff). It has always been in place. It's called being able to show your opponent the rules of your army.
4. I'm not telling people how they get their product. I'm saying if you illegally download your book you can't expect to show up to a tourney with it and play. Buy the damn book off the shelf. Forget the fact for the moment that it's illegal. It's disrespectful to the place you're playing at.
I am not saying that you cannot own a pdf copy of a book. Copyright infringement law does, but I'm not. I'm just saying if you show up at any tournament I'm running without either a paper copy or the digital copy (again NOT a PDF) you're not playing.
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