super proxy fun chaos

[nsc]

Well it isn't cheap point-wise and having cult marines as troop choices is very strong in 6e... like feel no pain and poisoned combatknives are very attractive :-D

[Frosty the Pirate]

Dec 25, 2012 15:48:55 GMT -5 nsc said:

Well it isn't cheap point-wise and having cult marines as troop choices is very strong in 6e... like feel no pain and poisoned combatknives are very attractive :-D

That's exactly the problem with cult troops as troops. You get far fewer bodies.

Basic CSM are incredibly versatile, they are actually better (imo) than Grey Hunters, simply due to their customization options between marks, weapons, etc. The problem is they pay for this customization, and you can spend a small fortune if you try to take everything. Keeping basic CSM cheap and cheerful is tough.

1 unit of Plague Marines could really help the list, but I wouldn't get more than that, otherwise you risk dropping the body count too low. The problem is where to get the points. He would have to trade 2 units for 1 unit, and that just becomes too much of a trade. Cult troops are good, but not replace 2 units good.

[danydaigle24]

This is what I would do:

Use mace on DP instead of flamer

3 unit of PM instead of wanabe PM because they are better and fearless 2 unit with melta 1 with flamers and pf on all champion

You don't need combi melta on rhino

Go with one small unit of cultists like 15

1 unit of max nurgle spawn is enough

Go with one helldrake for air support and killing stuff

1 vindicator

1 pred

And do whatever you want with rest and it's gonna be a nasty list

[LizardTau]

can't take plague marines as troops unless you take a lord with nurgle or typhus.

the mace would be awesome on a close combat prince but mine is going to be flying around casting powers, flaming and vectorstriking.

ya one unit of nurgle spawn is probably enough and i could change one unit to a dragon, and with the extra 10 points i could change one predator to a vindicator

[danydaigle24]

By cutting the spawn you should be good to have a lord wannabe cult troop is pretty bad because you kill 3 in a shooting phase or win a CC and it's over...

[LizardTau]

normal csm aren't bad and to 5 is nice, but ya you are paying a but for the extra toughness.

to make the list really nasty i could cut out the nurgle on the troops to do this

Hq

same flying daemon prince of nurgle, wings, brand, mastery level 2 and spell firmilar so he can burn stuff and cast nurgle rot or plague wind.

troops:

4 x 10 csm no marks, with 2 melta, champions with mauls in rhinos

fast:

5 nurgle spawn

2 x helldrake baleflamers

heavy

3 x pred with side lascannons

2000 points. now id does fall into double dragon area but it would be pretty nasty to anyone with mass foot troops with all the ap 3 flames and the nurgle rot or plague wind

[LizardTau]

but i didnt really want to get nasty with the list just wanted it to be a fun list lol

[Frosty the Pirate]

Lol, really shows how easy it is to make a nasty chaos list.
Step 1) Make a list
Step 2) add 2 dragons
Step 3) Profit

Personally I like the MoN troops, I think maybe dropping the second unit of spawn opens up enough options for you to have some fun with. The list needs... something. Maybe a true CC unit with some combat punch? Chaos likes to be punchy, and this is pretty shooty, not that shooting is a bad thing

[LizardTau]

Its not just the dragons making it nasty it would be that there is a lot of de meq power in the.list that would work.well.with the dragons and the nurgle.prince. Well from the original list i could drop a spawn and a pred for a land raider and make a nurgle csm into a wannabe berserker squad and still have some points left

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[LizardTau]

here is anouther fun vertion, i dont want to do dragons even tho i know they are awesome but i can't proxy one easy and i dont want to buy one.

Hq

Nurgle prince, mastery level 2, brand, and spell firmilar

Troop:

3 x 10 CSM of nurgle, 2 meltas, champions with maul, in rhinos with dirge casters

10 CSM of khorne, dropping bolters for free ccws and champion with maul and icon of wrath

2 x 10 cultists with a heavy stubbers each (could just make it one large one or drop them for icon of vengence on the normal squads)

Fast:

5 nurgle spawn

Heavy

2 x preds with side las

land raider with dirge caster

2000 points

[Frosty the Pirate]

If Icon of Vengeance gives you Fearless, I would take it over cultists in a heartbeat. Forcing your opponents to kill the entire unit is a big deal, and it means you can't be swept/broken, so not having ASTKNF becomes a non-issue.

[danydaigle24]

and then you pay a millions pts to have wannabe Khorne or Nurgle its ridiculous to do that but he said he wants to play for fun and he doesnt own the army so go ahead ...

[LizardTau]

i agree that plague marines are better then csm with nurgle and an icon, but they do cost quite a but more points wise then csm of nurgle, so much so id have to drop the 4 troop choise to take them. which ya fnp and the plague knifes are probably worth it. but id also have to take a lord, so id be dropping my daemon prince which is the whole reason im making the list i want to play a daemon prince of nurgle. my marines probably dont need nurgle, and i could drop the khorne for maybe possesed or chosen or something

[danydaigle24]

It's the fearless the big difference you will see when you lose combat and lose your initiative and they all die

[LizardTau]

yeah thats true, and actually they arent as bad as i thought points wise. here is a list with plague marines instead of csm of nurgle

Hq:

Nurgle lord, with sigil, blight grenades, black mace and palanguin of nurgle

Daemon prince of nurgle, wings, mastery level 2

troops

3 x 10 plague marines with 2 melta in rhinos

8 plague marines with 2 metlas in rhino

fast

5 nurgle spawn

heavy

2 x preds with side las

1987 points, put the lord with the spawn so he doesnt get insta killed by str 10. but can drop the palanquin and add a plague marine to put him with a plague marine