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Post by guis on Aug 25, 2010 20:04:49 GMT -5
Okay, a sample 1850 space wolves list using drop podding grey hunters and ML long fang spam, you're looking at: 3x Longfangs of 5 ML and sargeant, 140 a piece 2xRune Priest 110 points each 5x Grey Hunters, 6 a piece, special weapon, and a drop pod 130 5 Wolf Guards, combi special, power fist 215 (join grey hunters) 3 land speeders with 2 heavy bolters each 180 6 wolf guard, each with a combi weapon in a drop pod 173
18 KP I could see a razorback spam list easily breaking 20 KP
A sample 1850 mech guard list: company command with plasma spam, astropath, officer of fleet, in a chimera 235 Plantoon command squad with 3 flamers and a heavy flamer in a chimera 120 3x Infantry Squad with a autocannon in a chimera 115 each 2x veterans with 3 melta guns 100 each 2x vendetta 130 each manticore 160 A unit of 2 hyrdras 150 A unit of 2 medusas 270 Allied GH inquisitor with hood, tarot, 2 mystics, 2 hierophants 83
again, 18 KP
These two builds are in my opinion the top or near to the top builds in their respective codexes.
The other thing to note is the ease at which it is to kill their units, get a side shot on a chimera, it's AV 10 so you pen and explode it, the squad inside loses a quarter of the men and run off the board. Space wolves, if you have any outflankers their long fangs are a squad of 6 basic space marines, and their drop pods, they are throwing armour 12 open topped vehicles on your side of the board for anyone to kill!
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Post by fritzthedwarf on Aug 25, 2010 22:47:28 GMT -5
Interesting. I can certainly see the point that high vehicle lists will suffer in Kp missions (to compensate for their cheap vehicles and the power it brings in other missions). I just wish GW would have found a better way to balance the missions. My 14 Kp list is certainly better off Kp-wise versus mech guard lists or mech/drop pod wolf lists but my sons space wolf list is 10Kp (no vehicles or drop pods) but lots of grey hunters and missiles. His list will cause me a lot of trouble and then in a Kp mission it just makes it worse.
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