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Post by cmcd on Jun 3, 2015 10:17:53 GMT -5
I bought a 'limited' addition last time. It's not really worth 165. It looks nice for one or two games. but then... you wish you didnt spend an extra 100 on it. Look forward to the Dex.
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Post by connor on Jun 3, 2015 11:20:11 GMT -5
I think limited editions aren't meant to be used like a codex, I can see the value of having it if I had the money, it's the collectors thing.
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Post by calitom on Jun 3, 2015 13:50:26 GMT -5
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Post by Hizack on Jun 3, 2015 13:56:27 GMT -5
Excelsior!
Also good news that they work for every faction. Does this mean all the other marine armies are going to be getting grav?
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Post by voodoo on Jun 3, 2015 13:59:44 GMT -5
lol, the Excelsior says "You there, Gravastators you have skyfire now, politely mouth F%*! the S&@% out of that flyer over there."
Edit: I can see these easily being an auto-include in any Astartes force. Bring 2 drop pods worth of guys, have one arrive via drop pod assault as normal and have the rhino there to pull the other one in first turn as well.
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Post by thesanityassassin on Jun 3, 2015 14:20:56 GMT -5
It'd make for pretty sweet defense AGAINST Drop Pod Assault too - Ok you drop in your Centurions, I'll give my Gravistators Interceptor!
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 3, 2015 15:30:56 GMT -5
from faeit:
"There is a lot to this Space Marine codex, and its going to be the largest codex to date reaching 200 pages. There is more too, with some more details of the new Devastator box set that includes a Cherub carrying a Melta Bomb!
Here are some of the details. via anonymous sources on Faeit 212 Can confirm some bits from White Dwarf. 2 weapons each of lascannon, multi melta, heavy bolter, plasma cannon, missile launcher & grav cannon. 6 sets of legs inc one kneeling The firing rockets are optional and there are 2 in the box. Yes there really is a cherub carrying a melta bomb. Chapter Tactics appear to be for the army and then certain Doctrines can be applied on a turn by turn basis - Tactical Doctrine: Effected models can re-roll 1's in shooting and assault phases this turn. Tactical squads and characters that have joined them, may re-roll all failed to hit rolls There's White Dwarf Exclusive objectives in this issue for armies using Salamanders Chapter Tactics (1 of them "Weather the Storm" is to launch an assault and to not suffer a casualty to Overwatch just for example) Space Marine codex is 200 pages (largest yet) including a Gladius Strike Force Detachment and 12 Formations. Codex features Salamander Chapter Structure and White Scar squad & company markings. Codex is £35/$58 US "
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Post by calitom on Jun 3, 2015 15:56:39 GMT -5
The command rhino also gives pseudo skyfire since you snapfire at full BS.
"This Sicaran gets skyfire, and my other one gets full BS snapfire." So as I said before... EXCELSIOR.
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Post by Khalai on Jun 3, 2015 16:14:03 GMT -5
Yes there really is a cherub carrying a melta bomb. Sold.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 3, 2015 16:40:53 GMT -5
too bad currently you have to go to warhammer world to get them
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 4, 2015 10:26:36 GMT -5
From Faeit:
"White Dwarf sometimes reveals the new detachments for new release codices, and while we had not seen anything I was curious if the this weeks White Dwarf would have anything on the new detachment. Are there any hints in White Dwarf on how the Gladius Strike Force Detachment will work?
via anonymous sources on Faeit 212 Not a lot. It talks about a Battle Demi-Company which "forms the heart of a Gladius Strike Force". The Demi-Company shown consists of: Captain Command Squad 3 x Tactical Squads Assault Squad Devestator Squad Dreadnought It says the Gladius Strike Force is the most commonly used strike force however there are others. Lance Strike Force relies on Bikes, Speeders and Transport vehicles. Javelin Strike Force requires a lot of marines from the 7th Company. The entire Strike Force is deployed by air. Strike Force Ultra is made up entirely from 1st Company Veterans in Terminator Armour. Deployed by Stormraven, Land Raider & Teleporter. In another tidbit it mentions an "Armoured Task Force of Vindicators & Thunderfire Cannons " - could well be one of the 12 formations."
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 5, 2015 11:09:20 GMT -5
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Post by thesanityassassin on Jun 5, 2015 11:56:56 GMT -5
Via Warseer's Sinsigel 6-5-2015 " I apologise if I'm uploading info that has already been posted. FLGS nearby started showing SM codex for preview. I simply skimmed through the codex so there will be many gaps and slightly inaccurate parts. Points costs will not be posted.
Chapter Tactics still remain, although every one of them has been 'buffed'. White Scars for example all get hit & run whether the model has bulky rule or not. Combat Doctrines only gives to-hit rolls.
Devastators do not have Slow and Purposeful. They do get a wargear allowing the squad to re-roll failed to hits for a single shooting phase. Tactical squad can carry grav cannon & amp, although it's almost twice as expensive as lascannon.
Vanguards get bonus to charge distance, while Ironclad & Venerable dreadnoughts get 4 attacks minimum. Assault centurions' siege drill now strikes at S10 Legion of the Damned is still in the codex, and it's DS ability has been slightly buffed.
Most vehicles, if taken in squadron of three, gain significant buff. Multiple Stalkers(now with interceptor) can ignore cover, where as three vindicators can instead fire a single shot with apocalyptic blast which ignores cover.
That's all I can recall with any degree of clarity."
So......Apocalyptic Blast Ignores Cover likely at 10/2 sounds like a thing we want in 40k right?? I've got 3 Vindicators waiting right here....
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jun 5, 2015 14:16:12 GMT -5
I think you need a whole heap of salt on that...
...especially since the FLGS do NOT yet have the new books, they aren't set for release until next week and haven't even been announced on GW site yet or white dwarf. So some person has seen a book not yet announced at a local store and read a couple very specific bits of information but nothing else?
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Post by Khalai on Jun 5, 2015 15:06:26 GMT -5
Yet somehow probably not as much salt as you think *eyes eldritch storm*. Plus it's a lot easier to blow up a vindicator than a seer council. Maybe a teaspoon or tablespoon of salt would be better.
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