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Post by Trickster Raven on Jul 28, 2018 14:16:18 GMT -5
Hi Everyone,
A few members of the community have been talking about the state of the store's terrain, and we're looking to build some new pieces. I spoke with Shannon earlier, and since he's busy, and I'm a terrain nerd, I'll be the one organizing it. If you have any ideas, suggestions or things you'd like to see feel free to post them here. If you have any tools or materials you could contribute (or if you'd like to help with any building) please also let me know. I figured that this would also be a good opportunity for those of us who do a lot of terrain builds to share knowledge with anyone who'd like to learn a little more.
I also spoke with Mike about it. Before anything can be built or added, we'll need to go through the existing terrain to see what can be repaired, and what needs to be purged. Mike and I will be doing this next Saturday, and nothing else will be started until we've done so. We also discussed the idea of building sets so that themed tables, rather than random pieces, can be put together for games. With that in mind, we'll also be looking at ways of keeping the shelves better organized.
As I final point, I was also thinking that we should see if there's something we can do to directly support the store as we do this. I was thinking that we could take up a collection and use some of the money to buy materials, and some of it to buy pre-built stuff from the store. Just an idea, let me know what you think.
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Post by coymastermikhail on Jul 28, 2018 20:48:15 GMT -5
Just so you are all tracking i am currently in the process of putting together a full board of sector mechanicus themed terrain for this year's club champs. it will likely take me until the tourney to have it ready though
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Post by Trickster Raven on Jul 28, 2018 21:03:15 GMT -5
Just so you are all tracking i am currently in the process of putting together a full board of sector mechanicus themed terrain for this year's club champs. it will likely take me until the tourney to have it ready though Sweet! Looking forward to seeing it. |
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Post by lastcranston on Jul 28, 2018 23:27:09 GMT -5
I have little to no experience actually building terrain but I have the usual clippers, plastic saw, hobby knife and files. I'd be more than happy to donate my spare time and some funds to the project.
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Post by question on Jul 29, 2018 15:29:40 GMT -5
It must be 10 years or more since Mike hosted a painting day to get more terrain built for tournaments. It was a lot of fun and made the table look so much better. Since then we have used, abused, and broken a lot of the terrain. This is not covered by tournament fees and certainly not by his generosity in providing free casual gaming space.
That being said, I support the idea of taking up a collection and/or donating supplies or kits to this effort. I have some built but not painted kits that I am willing to donate. I'm sure I have bits and pieces of pink insul board and other stuff in my work space that could go to the cause. Like most / all of us I have sprue and bits to contribute. I can work on terrain at home (fyi, I'm a better builder than painter) or go to Nexus with my gear on a Sunday (or two) or after work if you want it all done on site.
Let me know what's needed and I will see what I can do to help out.
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Post by Trickster Raven on Jul 29, 2018 20:21:19 GMT -5
Thank you so much for the offer. I'll be sure to keep you posted and let you know when I have a sense if what's happening.
At the moment what I'm hopi g we can do is take 2 or 3 Sundays and work in the store. The first week would be building with the second for painting. Again, that may change after I've had more time to discuss things with Mike.
That being said, any donations of time or materials are welcome and appreciated.
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Post by artonas on Jul 30, 2018 10:04:57 GMT -5
I'm definitely up for helping paint and build terrain. I've got a bit of AoS terrain I can donate that I never use.
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Post by southstafford on Jul 30, 2018 11:15:41 GMT -5
I'd like to suggest terrain items that can fit every type of game played there, 40k, AOS, Flames,Team Yankee, Bolt Action, ie trees, hills, rivers, roads, hedges. Yesterday at our bolt action tournament 8 out of 11 tables were supplied by 3 of us gamers due to so much terrain being 40k/AOS.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 30, 2018 11:31:42 GMT -5
to be fair... it's a pretty new phenomenon (ie: first time ever) that bolt action has ever had this big of a showing... and frankly the reason there is ANY terrain there at all is by donation - mostly from Mike to support gaming in the store. So much of the donations have been 40k related or holdovers from when warhammer fantasy was a thing (no real specific AOS terrain is in store either - and there's a reason - it's specific terrain by GW that is expensive). If you want terrain present there to represent a specific game you play, then you'd pretty much have to either donate it, or help build it. Scale can also be an issue, and the majority of terrain in store is scaled to 28mm gaming, as that is what is primarily played.
The warmachine club for example has their own tub of terrain elements that they have specifically for their events because they wanted specific items to scale with their game.
There are a TON of hills there, which really aren't used for 40k at all, and trees, hedges etc. are expensive to buy, which explains their limited number (and I believe most if not all were bought by Mike)
It's a struggle many times just to have people put the terrain back on the shelves, not to mention keep it intact. (which is why we don't give out prizes at 40k tournies until everything's back on the shelf). Terrain is a giant expense for clubs, especially a club with the huge gaming space we have (which is extremely rare). It's also an organizational nightmare and past efforts to organize things have not been followed through on when terrain is put back, therefore it just becomes an unending mess and easy for things to break.
I'm fully behind the effort to get more great terrain in store, and if I had more (ie: any) time I'd be all over organizing it myself, but I just can't do it. I'll help in however way I can and certainly do not mind donating materials for the cause.
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Post by stofficus on Jul 30, 2018 13:13:33 GMT -5
I plan on taking some leave during the 2nd or 3rd week of August, so I'll have some time to lend a hand. I have exactly zero experience with working on terrain, but it's on my bucket list to figure out. All I've done historically on that front is a few re-orgs/purges of terrain back in BC, so I can at least offer some organizational help out of the gate.
Terrain makes or brakes this sort of game, and some of the most of fun I've had has been on tables covered in all sorts of huge, insane scratchbuilt terrain or hugely dense urban boards, and I'd be quite happy to enable some more of that - especially with the new ruin kits GW is putting out which are quite nice.
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Post by Typhus on Jul 30, 2018 14:32:34 GMT -5
I'm in.
As far as 40k terrain is concerned, let's make sure we're all building terrain which is good for blocking LOS, since there's practically no use for anything less in 8th edition. I would also like to see a few terrain pieces which can block LOS for the larger models in the game (knights, the daemon primarchs, etc).
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Jul 30, 2018 14:42:43 GMT -5
I'm in. As far as 40k terrain is concerned, let's make sure we're all building terrain which is good for blocking LOS, since there's practically no use for anything less in 8th edition. I would also like to see a few terrain pieces which can block LOS for the larger models in the game (knights, the daemon primarchs, etc). 100% agree. The terrain I always pull out now are those basic brown rock formations. |
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Post by Trickster Raven on Jul 30, 2018 14:49:42 GMT -5
I've been reading over the last few posts, and the requests shouldn't be too hard to do. I know a fee different ways of making generic rock formations. Some work for LOS blocking, some are useful for positioning models on and some do both. They're also generic enough to work for multiple games as they don't have a specific theme to them.
I was also thinking some ruined buildings would be a good idea. LOS blockers are defiantly useful, but if that's all we build then we risk running into a predictable pattern if games. I think at least some variety would be a good idea - just so we can mix things up.
On a related note, does anyone have any of the green stuff world rolling pins? I have two - the factory and the cthulhu ones - and they work great on foam if we want to add more detail to the terrain.
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Post by stofficus on Jul 30, 2018 18:14:29 GMT -5
I love urban boards, so that will be my focus at any rate - the old GW stuff was pure swiss cheese so it had almost no LOS blocking value, but both the new stuff and anything scratch built has much better options on that front.
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Post by Trickster Raven on Jul 30, 2018 19:32:51 GMT -5
We can defiantly do urban stuff. I have a great way for creating realistic concrete effects, which have the added bonus of strengthening the materials used to make the building
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