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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Nov 15, 2021 10:42:45 GMT -5
So seems as though we're going to be getting some more concrete news over the next few months, but here is what we have currently: natfka.blogspot.com/2021/11/rumors-old-world-returning-and-new.htmlnatfka.blogspot.com/2021/11/rumors-details-on-what-old-world-will-be.html7th edition as the base ruleset, and basically going from there actually has me pretty interested (where I was very much in the "meh" category at the beginning). The thought of rebasing my ogres again is a pretty horrific thought to me, but I could be tempted (my DOK and stormcast are solely AOS armies so no rebasing there). My wonder is which is going to actually be the properly supported game? AOS or WHFB? Their track record of long term support of WHFB is really, really bad. 7th edition was just as they were breaking the game (some of us remember clearly the Matt Ward Daemon and Vampire Count codexes full out breaking the game) |
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Nov 15, 2021 11:03:57 GMT -5
I really wonder what their gameplan is to deal with the shared units and square bases. Just keep all the shared boxes with both sets of bases?
I have Mark's WHFB dwarf army which I specifically kept on squares in case I ever were to use them for a reborn Fantasy or one of its sister games, but the bases present a serious adoption problem now that most people in the hobby have adapted fully to AoS.
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Post by dave on Nov 15, 2021 11:49:49 GMT -5
Square bases are the reason I'm firmly in the "meh" category. I'm a new player, and I don't have any old whfb armies just sitting around.
I'm definitely not interested in building a full army that I can't also use for AoS. Unless there are a bunch of 9th age players out there looking to give GW another try, I just don't see finding games to be any easier than their various other side games. So even if the rules sound fun, I doubt I'd invest.
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Nov 15, 2021 12:43:09 GMT -5
Yeah it's something that seems unlikely to have indefinite support. I think mostly it will be attractive to people already invested or who play other stuff in that scale.
But that said, I'd still rate it above any GW boxed game every one of which is doomed to evaporate once they stop selling whereas WHFB armies are usable in a number of parallel miniatures games at the same scale.
One thing GW could (but probably won't) do would be to increase the infantry base to a 25mm square so that you could rank AoS minis on trays at the same density. That would definitely make it a much more attractive prospect, but then you have the issue that original WHFB stuff is on the wrong base size again.
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Post by artonas on Nov 15, 2021 19:36:38 GMT -5
As much as I loved the templates I kinda hope they go the way of the dodo for the game. Too many arguments on the table of who is hit and who isn’t. If they were to get rid of the template and switch to something like 40K blast weapons, the bigger the squad, the more hits or just a flame template would now do D3 hits per 10 models in a unit or something like that. If you did this you could have round bases mounted on movement trays like war of the ring or game of thrones. I think taking a look at Kings of war style where the models ontop of the tray are mostly to show you what you are using, it’s all about the movement tray itself. A unit of dwarfs could be 100mm wide in the front and 80mm deep meaning it’s a 5 man front and 4 ranks. I doubt this would happen as they’ll try to separate themselves from kings of war.
Also I’m just excited to get some rumours even if they are the most vague thing. 2023 is a couple years away. I’ll keep playing as much squarehammer as I can before this game comes out and then I’ll be jumping onboard with it as I want it to succeed.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Oct 14, 2022 10:26:21 GMT -5
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Post by sean on Oct 14, 2022 18:54:55 GMT -5
Yeah, and looking at the map, maybe more of Kislev and the border princes.
I really hope (and it's probably in vain) that GW switches from stats being for the individual models to more the Kings of War style of stats for the units. That would solve the AoS base conversion issue, if it is just a standard base size for a regiment, and then fill with models as able. The attack stat could then decrease as the units takes damage, sort of like big monsters do in AoS.
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Post by StepwisePilot on Oct 26, 2022 22:52:22 GMT -5
Yeah, and looking at the map, maybe more of Kislev and the border princes. I really hope (and it's probably in vain) that GW switches from stats being for the individual models to more the Kings of War style of stats for the units. That would solve the AoS base conversion issue, if it is just a standard base size for a regiment, and then fill with models as able. The attack stat could then decrease as the units takes damage, sort of like big monsters do in AoS. Yeah, I'd say it's probably in vain. If it's individual models, then you need to buy more of GW's stuff. If it was like KoW, people could "multibase", and really stretch out boxes beyond what GW intended. And seeing as how GW likes money (And dislikes proxies, at least, in official GW stores), I can't see this happening. |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Feb 6, 2023 17:38:29 GMT -5
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Post by Typhus on Feb 6, 2023 17:54:40 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Apr 15, 2023 11:49:03 GMT -5
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Post by StepwisePilot on Apr 15, 2023 16:13:27 GMT -5
The article mentions "returning models". Is it possible that instead of every kit being new, some will be the older kits from the days of fantasy? Would certainly help them get the game out sooner than if every single kit and model is brand new.
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Post by princerobinp on Apr 15, 2023 17:28:40 GMT -5
All the models in the war com article are old models from 6th (7th?) Ed. I actually like the idea of them reusing some of the older stuff as it means the style and size will actually be the same.
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Post by dave on Apr 15, 2023 17:35:45 GMT -5
I'm for it. Game happens faster, and they can get more of the old crowd back in, as they may already have a functional army.
Plus I like a lot of the old models. Not everything needs to be covered in detail and take ages to paint up.
I'm wondering if the bigger base footprint will allow for movement trays to be made that will accommodate the old squares and the rounds for aos.
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Post by redshirt2375 on Apr 16, 2023 6:56:49 GMT -5
I'm wondering if the bigger base footprint will allow for movement trays to be made that will accommodate the old squares and the rounds for aos. I'm pretty sure I already saw someone has created an STL for exactly that in regards to the old 20mm squares and posted it in at least one of the WFB groups |
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