Bretonnian 8th Edition List v0.2

[justice7ca]

Purpose of this is to help balance out my army. I'm thinking of removing the Questing Knights for Pegasus Knights. Any insight as to how to help make this a more rounded army is very welcome.

My tactics here are to rely on my knights to get into battle quickly, grab some kills; pick off what I can with the bowmen and use the horde men at arms unit as a wall to push directly in front.

Take a close look at the men at arms with paladin support; and let me know what you think of that.

Here goes.. 2241/2250



Unit 1:
The Green Knight

Unit 2:
11 Knights of the Realm
+ Musician
+ Standard
+ War Banner (+1 Combat Resolution)
Damsel of the Lady
+ Warhorse
+ Barding
+ Dispel Scroll
+ The mane of the Purebreed (First charge, all warhorses in unit get +1 Strength)

Unit 3:
5 Questing Knights
+ Musician
+ Standard
+ Valorous Standard (Roll 3D6 for all leadership tests, discard highest die)

Unit 4:
5 Grail Knights
+ Musician
+ Standard
+ Banner of Chalons (Enemy cannot stand and shoot when this unit charges)
Prophetess of the Lady (Army General)
+ Level 4 Upgrade
+ Warhorse
+ Barding
+ Dispel Scroll

Unit 5:
39 Men-at-Arms
+ Musician
+ Standard
Paladin (Battle Standard Bearer)
+ Ruby Goblet (Once wounded, bearer & unit can't be wounded on better than 3+)
+ Virtue of Empathy (Fight on foot. Peasants within 12" can use his Leadership)


Unit 6:
20 Peasant Bowmen
+ Musician
+ Braziers

Unit 7:
20 Peasant Bowmen
+ Musician
+ Braziers

Unit 8:
20 Peasant Bowmen
+ Musician
+ Braziers

Unit 9:
Trebuchet

[Jack Shrapnel]

If you keep the questing knights, I'd put the paladin BSB on a horse with them, so they can run lance formation as well... ranks are everything in this edition, and you require two ranks to disrupt... the men at arms should be able to retain ranks for steadfast, however, I wouldn't actually put them in horde formation. They would be better served having the ranks to ensure steadfast so your knights can follow up with a crash into the flanks....

[danydaigle24]

What do you think about this one, Lord, Mage and BSB in Grail knight, with the banner you cut all rank and with the lord you kill almost everything. You have Magic Resistance 2+ in your Grail Knight, Knights are there to support your men-at-arms and 2 trebuchet to fire. Pegasus Knight are going for war machine


Bret Lord 110
Virtue Heroism 40
Mantle Damsel 20
Warhorse 21
Grail Shield 35
Grail Vow 28
Lance 6
Total 260

Prophetess Lady 190
Warhorse 15
Lvl 4 35
Silver Mirroir 40
Total 280

Total Lords 540


Heroes

Paladin Battle Standard 60
Grail 21
Horse 14
Banner Lady 100
Total 195

Damsel of the Lady 70
Lvl 2 35
Warhorse 10
Dispel Scroll 25
Prayer Icon 25
Total 165

Total Hero 360

Core

50 Peasant 225
Musician/Standard 15
Total 240

19 Bowmen 114
Fire 5
Total 119

9 Knights 216
War Banner 25
Command 24
Total 265


Total 624



Special

4 Pegasus Knights 220



Rare


7 Grail Knight 266
Command 30
Banner Defense 30
Total 326

Trebuchet 90

Trebuchet 90

Total Rare 506

[thesanityassassin]

I do like the Dual trebuchets.....they are leaps and bounds abover other Stone Throwers in this one....however I think the units of 20 flaming arrows are huge against monsters like the War Hydra, and don't forget they now cause fear to Cavalry, which could save you on some charges against them.

What about taking the first list, dropping the Questing Knights (who I really think are outclassed in this edition....striking last just means too many will die before fighting) for another Trebuchet and another Grail Knight or two?

Lore of Beasts + mane of the Purebreed is actually nasty...you can get your horses to S5 on the charge with your basic spell!

Not sure about the Green Knight though....with the amount of Terrain he could do well hunting War Machines, but you might be better served with a Lord or a couple Paladins in your knight units. A couple things to consider are the Heroic Killing Blow virtue for popping monsters, or the Wyrmlance, which can add in 2d6 S4 hits in a combat due to new Breath Weapon rules, which can make a mess of light infantry.

Also, I would try and change your foot BSB equipment....he needs to have as good a save as possible with those Men-at-Arms or he will be torn down very quickly! Think about maybe putting a Damsel in that unit, as remember the FAQ states that the one magic item can give the Lady's Blessing to Peasants! 7 wide, 6 deep halberd peasants with a ward save is quite nasty, especially if you can get the Lore of Beasts signature spell off on them!

[justice7ca]

Wow amazing thanks for the insight guys. Helps a ton!

I'm happy to not see the Men-At-Arms in Horde formation. I quite like the Green Knight as he only costs 270 pts to put on the field; and has successfully made a mess of things in the back ranks for me on several occasions. (this tactic comes into play when placing forests and water)

two treb's is an interesting idea, one i might go for.

thanks guys!

[LizardTau]

i won't put my two cents in because i know nothing about brets but i will say that you have two dispell scrolls and actually you can only have one now, which i found out durning the tournement when i brought two lol