40k Seasons

[Jack Shrapnel]

so this is how they'll be doing things now... 


www.warhammer-community.com/2021/12/28/warhammer-40000-seasons-are-going-to-change-the-way-you-conquer-the-galaxy/

guess it gives a matched play reset every six months instead of yearly with chapter approved. 

[dave]

Fans: hey GW, 9th is pretty bloated and lopsided with powerful, overly complex codexes and all the janky combos from multiple supplements.
Do you think maybe we could focus on balance and getting out the codexes for the factions still struggling with their 8th ed books?

GW: More supplements you say? How about if we just invalidate them every 6 months, so you don't have to worry about carrying too many books?

[Malarks]

Makes sense, given the "live service" of Warhammer+...

[lightcavalier]

The irony here is that the only "new" thing they are doing announced here is shortening the Chapter Approved life cycle to 6 months....but given that its apparently their most purchased supplement the business logic is there even if I don't have to like it.(at this point updates are so frequent that 40k is almost a living rule set... id be way happier if they just stuck all this info in the app that I'm already paying for...or hell even a PDF)

Grouping the Kill Team, 40k battle box, Crusade missions, and narrative supplements into the same theme/story line in a 6 month period is something they were already doing....just not formally. All those things were comking out regardless of this move.


So while I appreciate continually tweaking matched play, I don't like that such small changes are monetized....esp the points changes that only last 3 months in many cases

[cmcd]

Well I think I am going to scrap the psychic awakening campaign, and Launch this Vigilus campaign instead. Assuming we are not locked down again. I think having a official zone for storyline for GW is great. And making it associated to Match Play is also great.

I was thinking this over Christmas how fun it would be to have different warzones played at Clubs. Different tables with different flashpoints or expansions. Maybe this would be a good start. It's a thought.

Anyways. Stay tuned to the Vigilus Campaign thread in the coming week. Ill post something up there.

[raceygaming]

Ya this seems like a far cry from the 1 chapter approved and 3x PDF updates that people were asking for.
Looks like they found a way to get double the monetization out of their system; so something that people really wanted to something a little more sinister.

I really hope GW starts to read the room on this new and pulls back on the plan cause this is how you get all your none codex works pirated.

[Jack Shrapnel]

well to be absolutely fair, they haven't been able to work this once a year chapter approved thing and have to keep doing shorter updates and rebalances.

As much as I HATE having a literal pile of books to play an army, they really can't do what they've been doing... chapter approved then a bunch of PDF updates to keep scaling back and changing new releases and existing ones that are too powerful still.

I wish they would take a big pause on the supplements until all the armies get their codex. Especially with the current lag on their printing, it just stretches things out even further. And yes, I say that even though one of my principal armies (nids) benefitted GREATLY by octarius supplement and the crusher stampede army of reknown making the army go from borderline unplayable to genuinely good. Yes, it would have been much better to just have a new codex, however I also realize nids aren't getting their book for a long while yet.

If they got the base books out first, then added all the supplemental material, it seems like that could get us quicker to a level playing field.

(yes the balance update PDF for admech/drukhari was sorely needed)

[VaUkos]

To work a bit off of jack I agree with that they should focus on the core stuff then supplement stuff.

I know I haven't played very long or many editions but one thing I wished GW would do when they relase a new edition for the core rules that all the armies/factions new codex's are released at the same time aswell instead of slowly trickling them out, so that it's a pretty fair playing field from the get go and if armies need rebalanceing from mass testing/audience they push out pdfs, I do understand that making a updated codex proabably takes alot of resources and man power and it would be alot more doing all of the armies at once but if they need to delay a edition release so everything gets there codex I'd be okay with that then to be the last armie to get there codex and a few months later a new edition comes out that may or may not be suited for the play style of that codex.

[lightcavalier]

They're in a bit of a pickle

Everyone needs updated rules, but at the same time the narrative/crusade ppl also need regular narrative content.

This is compounded by the fact that they need to make models for what tget make rules for....which means codex launches need to coincide with product launches when they introduce new units.

IMHO 3e/8e style indexes should be the norm at the start of a new edition, the codexes and supplements can roll out as they are now with additional content...but at least everyone would be on the same baseline and without a messy FAQ