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Post by Jack Shrapnel on May 4, 2022 12:48:56 GMT -5
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Post by cmcd on May 5, 2022 7:46:19 GMT -5
I am always happy to play against your rebels with my tauformers
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on May 5, 2022 8:34:21 GMT -5
I am always happy to play against your rebels with my tauformers That would be amazing! As a side note... was informed today of something that is a little disappointing but understandable. I have created three of these fandexes thus far and there is an online community that works on these things and posts them up. I was originally selected to be part of a annual bound edition of fandexes which was going to raise money for the Red Cross. GW even gave their blessing! .... but unfortunately for my stuff, I also needed Disney's permission to use their IP... and Disney did not grant permission to use the star wars stuff, even for charity... so I had to get dropped from the book  |
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on May 5, 2022 9:30:41 GMT -5
Disney and Lucasfilm have always been incredibly difficult to deal with regarding IP by my understanding.
GW approving it is fantastic tho. Shows how far they've come!
Your fandexes are of considerable quality and detail, it is a shame they aren't able to be published.
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Post by voodoo on May 5, 2022 9:39:41 GMT -5
It sucks, but I'm not surprised by Disney not putting their approval forward. Heck, we bought the docking bay 94 backdrop (the one with the Falcon) from a LFL/Disney approved vendor, for use specifically and ONLY with 501st events, and we still have to write them every single time we want to bring it out to get approval for something they've already approved us to have bought, owned and used a dozens times already.
It is, however kind of cool to get the responses on official Lucasfilm Ltd. letterhead.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on May 5, 2022 10:22:34 GMT -5
Disney and Lucasfilm have always been incredibly difficult to deal with regarding IP by my understanding. GW approving it is fantastic tho. Shows how far they've come! Your fandexes are of considerable quality and detail, it is a shame they aren't able to be published. Thanks Ray! I honestly hope to actually use them at some point (when people aren't prepping for tournies and such!). Til then I just keep painting stuff up slowly to go with the armies, just in case  |
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Post by LizardTau on May 5, 2022 11:13:12 GMT -5
I'd totally play agaisnt it.
After a quick look I'd ask no bowcaster on Chewbacca?
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on May 5, 2022 12:09:16 GMT -5
I'd totally play agaisnt it. After a quick look I'd ask no bowcaster on Chewbacca? he's got one! it's his first weapon on the profile! (you did make me look though lol) |
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on May 5, 2022 12:38:03 GMT -5
Looks pretty neat. Was glancing around at random profiles, I'm surprised at the sheer breadth! I can see you've drawn from a ton of different sources.
A random thought, I was looking at the page with the fleet troopers and I think the DH-17 Blaster Pistol gets a bit of a raw deal here being downgraded to a sidearm statline. These things are actually huge, they props were built from the same SMG stock as the E-11s the stormtroopers use and if you look at a side-by-side the two weapons are nearly exactly the same size. They actually have a larger optic than their stormtrooper counterpart and are noted in fluff could even be fired full auto, so I would probably put them closer to a rifle than a pistol in the logic of star wars weaponry (where tiny stormtrooper blasters are 'rifles').
I also wonder if there's a better way to represent their naval sourcing than repair, since while shipboard marines are probably damage control trained, they're not exactly technical personnel.
Another thought: a lot of stuff is uniformly leadership 8. imo leadership is a great way to create some diversity between similar units like veterans, commandos and the like who might be more elite, more tenacious or better trained than their regular counterparts when the difference isn't significant enough to warrant a WS/BS increase. I'd also probably give commandos BS 3+, being specforce and all!
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Post by LizardTau on May 5, 2022 12:59:27 GMT -5
I'd totally play agaisnt it. After a quick look I'd ask no bowcaster on Chewbacca? he's got one! it's his first weapon on the profile! (you did make me look though lol) Oh ok ill have to check again when I get home. Maybe the one I downloaded onto my phone didn't work correctly |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on May 5, 2022 14:42:08 GMT -5
Looks pretty neat. Was glancing around at random profiles, I'm surprised at the sheer breadth! I can see you've drawn from a ton of different sources. A random thought, I was looking at the page with the fleet troopers and I think the DH-17 Blaster Pistol gets a bit of a raw deal here being downgraded to a sidearm statline. These things are actually huge, they props were built from the same SMG stock as the E-11s the stormtroopers use and if you look at a side-by-side the two weapons are nearly exactly the same size. They actually have a larger optic than their stormtrooper counterpart and are noted in fluff could even be fired full auto, so I would probably put them closer to a rifle than a pistol in the logic of star wars weaponry (where tiny stormtrooper blasters are 'rifles'). I also wonder if there's a better way to represent their naval sourcing than repair, since while shipboard marines are probably damage control trained, they're not exactly technical personnel. Another thought: a lot of stuff is uniformly leadership 8. imo leadership is a great way to create some diversity between similar units like veterans, commandos and the like who might be more elite, more tenacious or better trained than their regular counterparts when the difference isn't significant enough to warrant a WS/BS increase. I'd also probably give commandos BS 3+, being specforce and all! Thanks for the feedback... good suggestions! For the guns I went with the description from Star Wars Legion models given that's what I'm using for the army (and wookiepedia of course for the detailed descriptions). On the models their pistols are TINY, (have a squad painted up) with the exception of the special weapons. Think Leia's blaster pistol tiny. Not sure that's entirely CORRECT... but wasn't a big enough deal for me to remodel them or anything. I like the idea of varying leadership as well. I wasn't sure really what to do with the fleet troopers to differentiate them enough as "these are the guys on ships" but I'm certainly open to suggestions! |
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on May 5, 2022 15:29:38 GMT -5
That's reasonable. A lot of my star wars knowledge about minutae like equipment came from the various RPGs during the time the WotC owned the license and in that the DH-17 was a big ol' hog of a blaster, like an intermediary between a pistol and a short rifle. Naturally most game makers just make up whatever convenient abstractions fit with how they want stuff to work so there's rarely much consistency about how these weapons are actually supposed to behave. That's how you get a telescoping stock on an E-11 in a video game when they already have a folding stock lol.
An interesting follow up point regarding weapon scale, the E-11 itself despite being classified in most sources as a 'rifle' is probably like... half the size of a laspistol (at least the ones the minis carry). In ANH a lot of the shots have the protagonists firing them like pistols, appropriate for the size and shape with the stock folded! I don't know if Legion carried the scale of these RL props but it wouldn't surprise me if you actually compared an E-11 stormtrooper and saw that his weapon was similarly diminutive!
Anyway I'm digressing. I'll have to think more about what you could do with fleet troopers to make them a bit more distinct...
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Post by brujonation on May 5, 2022 15:40:15 GMT -5
I loved the pen&paper star wars rpg, only got to play a few times but man it was cool. bringing it into a 40k army is awesome.
I don't know if I'm sounding old but does anyone remember the Robotech p&p rpg? that would be pretty wicked to convert somehow.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on May 5, 2022 16:16:22 GMT -5
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on May 6, 2022 12:12:07 GMT -5
I don't know if I'm sounding old but does anyone remember the Robotech p&p rpg? that would be pretty wicked to convert somehow. I never played a game of it but I had a copy of it! For fleet troopers, maybe a bonus to shots at close range or close combat, to reflect the fact that they are drilled for combat at what is essentially knife-fighting ranges. Possibly a leadership pip as well, if we're assuming they've got the esprit des corps typically associated with these types of branches (takes a lot of guts to deliberately walk into a meat grinder). That's somewhat consistent with old lore too, in the classic grand strategy game Star Wars Rebellion fleet troopers were the most elite infantry units the Rebellion could muster besides the specialized alien regiments. |
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