Team tournament Wombo Combos

[raceygaming]

While Nexus does it right by having teams rotate partners to avoid the most brutal of min/maxing in team there was still some pretty cool combos out there that open up when you start to mix and match codex. Also might be a good place to post up an interaction that you want to get a ruling on.




No toughness for you!

Mix of Necrons, Death guard and Admech and ?

Death Guard contagion range lowers toughness by 1 on a range that increases progressively. Skitarii Vanguard lower T and S by 1 in engagement range and Crons also have access to a sub faction for lowering T by 1 in a certain range.

Use this to make many T4 units T2, and even things like knights T6. Could be a cool interaction to make for some shockingly nasty melee just by drowning armies in saves.


FEAR ME!!!!

Mix Eldar, Dark Eldar, Nights lords and Chaos knights

You can bring the best of the best at stripping leadership. Hemlocks (-2lds 12") and Mindwar, Dark creed with Trophies ( -3 lds 3") , Night lords ( assuming new codex doesn't change to much), Chaos knights with dread (-1 or -2 depending on turn number)

Force every model loss to trigger a leadership with a big penalty and watch units melt from special abilities like extra -1 on combat attrition test from the knights. Also with CP getting more rare the 2cp auto pass is less likely


AMBUSH!!

Orks, GSC, Ravenguard and Tau


The idea is to lead heavily into midboard deployment and explosive pregame and turn one movement.

Orks bring Trukk boyz, Kommandos and Da Jump, GSC just pop up like normal, Raven guard forward deploy units + Invictor suit. Tau Bring 3 Fish of Fury and stealth/keel to get the massive pregame move and surge.
Turn one you have like 80% of your army read to shot/melee and grab a ton of board control.

[raceygaming]

SMITE MAKES RIGHT


T.Son, Greyknights, eldar, Tzeench demons

I don't know if its a combo as much as leaning super heavy into a million mortal wounds from a large number of sources with smites to fill the game. Seems like it can be pretty brutal if you can line up all your powers.

[Frosty the Pirate]

It is interesting that the standardization of abilities is causing this effect on our tag-team rules. I mean, if you wanted to call in the fun police to ruin everyone's nice time, you could just state that any similar abilities don't stack, through actually enforcing that would likely be a nightmare.

I don't normally attend tag-team, so I'll refrain from judging if any of this is worth worrying about, but it all seems like you'd have to be min-maxing pretty hard to get a slight edge that could run into a hard-counter.

Imagine for example you ran that Smite-Is-Might combo, and then ran into a team composed of Szarekhan, Emperor's Chosen, Valorous Heart, and Black Templars.

Overloading/min-maxing on one ability team-wide seems like the law-of-diminishing-returns will sort out things naturally.

[raceygaming]

Jun 27, 2022 16:05:07 GMT -5 Frosty the Pirate said:

It is interesting that the standardization of abilities is causing this effect on our tag-team rules. I mean, if you wanted to call in the fun police to ruin everyone's nice time, you could just state that any similar abilities don't stack, through actually enforcing that would likely be a nightmare.

I don't normally attend tag-team, so I'll refrain from judging if any of this is worth worrying about, but it all seems like you'd have to be min-maxing pretty hard to get a slight edge that could run into a hard-counter.

Imagine for example you ran that Smite-Is-Might combo, and then ran into a team composed of Szarekhan, Emperor's Chosen, Valorous Heart, and Black Templars.

Overloading/min-maxing on one ability team-wide seems like the law-of-diminishing-returns will sort out things naturally.

I think generally for tags we have followed the rule book. Effects with the same name don't stack. So if you and your friends want to run 4x death guard you don't make everything-2 since each army has the aura.

I do think you are right enforcing similar effect across armies just won't work. Every one is paying different point for abilities and such.


I think min/max will always leave you open to some hard counters but it's at least interesting to think over some combos that seem strong.


I know there is a boss make everything fight last combo out there that I'm trying to dig through.
Something like Wolves with belt of russ, orks redder armour, dark Eldar fight last archon, and something...
This space was just more ment for the mental exercise of playing around with lists.

[Frosty the Pirate]

Fair enough, it is very different to build a list for this type of event so it's a different mindset than I'm used to since you want to be able to create synergy across factions across your whole team.

[raceygaming]

Jun 28, 2022 9:29:51 GMT -5 Frosty the Pirate said:

Fair enough, it is very different to build a list for this type of event so it's a different mindset than I'm used to since you want to be able to create synergy across factions across your whole team.

Ya I think the 4 man teams really do help this out, since as you pointed out you want to still have a somewhat generalist build. When you get into the 2 man teams where your partner is fixed you can really get into some crazy builds that leverage strengths and cover weakness.

I do remember the year we did that at nexus that most games were done by turn 3, with a lot of games being very lopsided