Goonhammer's Nephilim Tier List

[Jack Shrapnel]

rerolls to shoot and fight, reanimating menhirs, secondaries completed by core at the end of the turn rather than next command phase, strats that affect core units (not OP, just more icing on the cake)

I mean he was already really good before this. I don't see any reason why he was justified as gaining core AND a point reduction!

And again, I play him. And will continue to do so because he's a crazy awesome model with cool rules. But he needs core removed in my opinion.

[Frosty the Pirate]

Necrons kinda had the kitchen sink thrown at them to buff them over the past 12 months.

Core across basically the whole dex, massive points cuts multiple times. They were struggling to even make 50% WR in the comp scene with those same buffs 3 months ago.

What's supercharged Necrons is the new secondaries imo. They are one of the few factions who can put up 100s and some of their new objectives are triggered off CORE which in combination with the other shots to the arm they've received means basically the whole codex can do them.

I suspect we'll see the datasheet buff adding core altered, or the secondaries toned down in the Q3 balance slate

[trantos01]

Of course while the Secondaries are very good, they require you to have an Army+Dynasty that is capable of smashing it's way onto the no-man's land objectives and holding them for at least the first couple of turns to get the VP.

And depending on the army the 'crons face, that can be a very tall order. The time I faced Jordon's Orks was a prime example of that where my push got blunted hard and then rolled back into my deployment zone very quickly.

[cmcd]

Found a list for shannon

Finished 5th at DZTV Warhammer 40,000 GT September 2022


Andy Taylor – Tyranids: Casual 11 ObSec Carnifexes. Ship it.
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++ Spearhead Detachment -3CP (Tyranids) [106 PL, , 2,000pts] ++
Game Type: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim
Hive Fleet: (Lurk) Territorial Instincts, Adaptive, Jormungandr

+ Stratagems +
Hive Predator [-1CP]: Extra Warlord Trait
Relic [-1CP]

+ HQ +
Neurothrope [5 PL, -1CP, 100pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Lurking Maws, Power: Psychic Scream, Power: Smite, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Adaptive Biology

Trygon Prime [10 PL, 185pts]: Relic: Searhive, Toxin Sacs, Toxinspike, Warlord Trait: Heightened Senses

+ Elites +
Pyrovores [2 PL, 40pts]: Pyrovore

+ Heavy Support +
Carnifexes [21 PL, 405pts]
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Scything Talons
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Scything Talons
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Scything Talons
Carnifexes [21 PL, 405pts]
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Scything Talons
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Scything Talons
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Scything Talons
Carnifexes [14 PL, 260pts]
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Scything Talons
. Carnifex: Heavy Venom Cannon, 2x Two Carnifex Scything Talons

Screamer-Killers [21 PL, 390pts]: Screamer-Killer, Screamer-Killer, Screamer-Killer

Tyrannofex [12 PL, 215pts]: Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis, Rupture Cannon

++ Total: [106 PL, 2,000pts] ++

Nids and necrons seem to be on top in the meta www.goonhammer.com/competitive-innovations-in-9th-conspicuously-pachyderm-free-room/

[Jack Shrapnel]

I did see that one... It's only three more fexes to paint...hmmmm

[silverwhasp]

Astra Militarum is finally feeling like Imperial Guard. Good secondaries and AoC is great for smaller vehicles like the Sentinel and the Chimera. The 6's auto-wound is also really good for Guard and feels juicy when a Lasgun can wound more consistently, the BS4 with all the minus ones to hit feels less bad.

All I would like for Guard is the ability to stay a little more on objectives. Hence why I myself bring a Baneblade, which should probably be a fully loaded Stormlord.

I am finally starting to feel like I can genuinely win a game with skill and a bit of luck instead of just luck.