Looking for a rule.

[cmcd]

Quick question.

this comes up from time to time. But i was wondering if a model’s base does not wholly fit on second floor of ruins can it still be placed there? I feel like i read that somewhere but not sure what edition it was ect.

[Frosty the Pirate]

As far as I am aware, in 9th ed, the only rule which exists as "relief" from the rules requiring you to place your models where they actually are, is the one for wobbly model.

Otherwise no such rule exists in the current edition of the game.

If the model can sit there without falling, even if the base is overhanging the edge of the floor or something, I don't think there's any restriction? Can anyone else confirm?

[raceygaming]

Could you give an example.

As far as I know as long as the unit meets all the keyword requirement and the all terrain keywords are correct than a model can be placed. IF it does not fit then you can mark it with wobbly model. However if there is a major issues I would use caution and talk with your opponent at the start of the game.

I know I came into this issue with my Broadsides - they are on 60mm bases and most ledges are only 40mm. While they could technically climb the building it made issues. We just removed the scale-able keyword from it and made it so nothing could climb/land on it.

[Jack Shrapnel]

Far as I'm aware this would be the wobbly model rule. With the caveat that you couldn't realistically say "these ten ork boys are all standing on this two inch square"

[raceygaming]

So I did look into the follow up and there is a rare rule about moving/charging and terrain when dealing taller than 6" or a "standard" move.

In the example Orks wanted to charge a model on the top floor of a 8" building and there were no other layers to the building. A model CAN NOT stop a climb on a vertical surface it must stop on a flat surface where it can be placed. More or less the ork wanted to move 5" up and stop on the wall for a 3" charge...it was ruled they had to base the terrain and make the 8" charge to reach the top.

I doubt this is the case you are talking about but it does make it clear that there MUST me a surface in which it can be placed. So a 28mm ledge probably is not a place-able terrain for a 60mm base.

I would say if you can identify the issues at the start of the match and come up with a rule/agreement is the best way but not sure in terms of LEGAL rule.

***Just adding to this if you look at old GW terrain all level with 3" apart as that was the rules used until 8th in terms of coherency vertically. Most modern terrain is 5" levels to let bigger models moved under and the change to 5" coherency/fighting in a building. IF you are dealing with custom terrain that does not conform to this I would house rule it 5" to a level or 3" to a level what ever make more sense.