Rules question

[trantos01]

So rereading the capabilities of the Beserks I came across something I wanted to be sure about.

Their FNP ability (Augmented) states that each time a model would lose a wound you roll a d6 and if it's a 5+, that wound is not lost.  However there is the note that if the damage characteristic of the attack was one, you add 1 to your roll.

Would this additional effect apply to mortal wounds? 

[LizardTau]

I think it would depend in my mind. (tho im sure more knowledgeable people then me will be able to weigh in.) so damage characteristic is from a weapon attack. so if the mortal wound would be comeing from somthing like a space marine scout sniper, which is damage one, but 6 do a mortal wound as well. then the scourse would be damage one so extra fnp. tho if its from a volkite which is damage 2 plus 6's doing a mortal wound i would say no. since the source isnt damage one.

as for psychic powers, explosions and other things they dont have a damage characteristic so no bonus. (also aren't an attack)

thats how id see it but i could see gw going either way on a ruling cause they make some weird ones.

[Frosty the Pirate]

This is FAQ worthy, if you haven't, submit to GW.

Technically speaking, my gut says no, you can't use the plus one, because mortal wounds don't have a profile, they are treated like they have a damage value of 1, but the process for resolving them does imply that without directly stating it.

So, my gutshot is no, you don't get the +1, but it's very possible this is an intended interaction by GW, and would make a lot of sense, it's actually more common than you might think to have a bonus against mortal wounds in these situations.

[redshirt2375]

Jan 22, 2023 12:44:27 GMT -5 Frosty the Pirate said:

Technically speaking, my gut says no, you can't use the plus one, because mortal wounds don't have a profile, they are treated like they have a damage value of 1, but the process for resolving them does imply that without directly stating it.

This was pretty much the consensus on a Facebook discussion I had read in regards to the question "Are Mortal Wounds DMG 1?"

As Frosty said, Mortals don't come from any profile.

The wording for Mortals (if I recall correctly) only say the model suffers 1 wound with no armour/invul saves allowed (other than FNP ones since they don't count as an armour/invul save), not that they take 1 damage

[lightcavalier]

Mortal wounds don't have a D stat/profile

They are just wounds against which no saving throws of any kind (except ignoring wound throws) aew not allowed, which are resolved one at a time and spill over after models die

[trantos01]

Right, so 4 up to ignore the bolt round to the face while 5 up to ignore the headache the psyker is giving them.