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Post by mrmanstory on Jan 31, 2023 20:38:01 GMT -5
Yeah my ultramarines started as "I bought dark Imperium and indomitus and now I might as well buy 3 redemptors" I feel most people who collect multiple armies just end up having 2k points of marines unless they're actively selling them off.
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Post by mrmanstory on Jan 31, 2023 20:39:48 GMT -5
Just realized I mostly just condensed what Derek was saying.
Smart guy that Derek
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jan 31, 2023 20:42:14 GMT -5
lightcavalier We already know the stats cos superkrak and superfrag assuming the leaks are correct. It's actually a surprisingly marginal improvement, D3+3 damage instead of d6 for the krak, same for frag but for shots instead and it has another point of rend. Surprisingly conservative honestly and probably not making up for losing the ability to swap fire modes. It's up to the other launchers to make these guys worth it I think.
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Post by lightcavalier on Jan 31, 2023 20:46:40 GMT -5
You are one of the few! These have the most negative primaris reaction I've seen, and we've had a few (techmarine turret, snowshoe jetbois...) Belt feeding isn't inherently stupid, it just is... in this case. It needs a bigger ammo compartment, probably integrated with the backpack like devs, atm the feed would be heavier than the ammo! It also makes little sense for the missiles to be in a revolving cylinder that restocks from a feed, makes them look unrelated because it's basically two different types of loaders smashed together randomly. It's like a gun drawn by Rob Liefeld, just covered in nonfunctional gribblies. Happy to override a desire for mild believability for rule of cool (I mean, it's a space marine unit!), but a launcher that looks like Johnny Five's face is just way too goofy. These legitimately look sillier than like rogue trader era quad combis or flying toilet landspeeders but without the nostalgia factor. See, this is why I can't take loyalist space marines seriously... I was looking at the COFFIN BASED PUNCHBOT and ROTARY BELT-FED DOUBLE STACKED ROCKET LAUNCHERS and thought finally, a marine army for me. Mix that in with the dreadnoughts in the Iron Hands Strike Force box, and I can eventually build a THE CHONK IS STRONK list of dreads, tanks, and techmarines. I'm still learning the 40K discourse. Marine players are looking for the sci-fi filtered military realism that Imperial Guard leans into? (I'll keep my AdMech: where my fast attack options are chicken-limbed robot walkers, cyborg canine cavalry, and Da Vinci styled flyers with bat wings and jetpacks.) Marine design has gotten really waffly "Firstborn" stuff was very much designed around aping 1980s military tech but amping up the "sci-fi" aspects of it (as opposed to the IG who had the more classic army visuals). Things looked like (at the time) modern weaponry but different in more significant ways than the mortal human factions at the time. With the dawn of primaris there has been a weird tension in the design aesthetic which bounces between extreeme "tacticool" (all the phobos stuff, most of the gravis stuff, etc) and "knightly" (bladeguard, various charachters, assault intercessors, etc). The bog standard Intercessor, Hellblaster, and Heavy Intercessor kind of thread the needle between these two extreemes nicely....wheras (in my opinion, which doesnt really matter but is being provided for context purposes) the desolation marines basically jump the shark of tacticool. They look like raytheon/lockheed martin teamed up with Cawl to sponsor space marine weapons....which is a huge design deviation from existing marine weaponry, but would look 100% normal in an imperial guard army (though oddly the IG have gone more early WW2 instead of their more vietnam/desert strom roots) To end....Heavy Intercessors are literally what I would imagine a space marine looked like if you were to just give me a written description and nothing else...absolute design win there.
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jan 31, 2023 21:27:14 GMT -5
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Post by Hi I'm Derek on Jan 31, 2023 21:35:01 GMT -5
....Heavy Intercessors are literally what I would imagine a space marine looked like if you were to just give me a written description and nothing else...absolute design win there. And as a bonus they look like terran marines if you put an astronaut helmet on 'em! Attachments:
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Post by thatguythere on Jan 31, 2023 22:13:20 GMT -5
They're in every box set and the cheapest army to get into, which is why most people have them at some point. Hell I even have some actual marines. They sit on a shelf and I never play them lol... but I do own the models...hmmm maybe I should sell those salamanders to think of it, since I actually never play them... I'm just not a marine guy... but I understand WHY there's lots of marine players. ... Along those lines, anyone wanna buy my Marines half of the 10th edition set when it comes out ... ?
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Post by mrmanstory on Jan 31, 2023 22:21:19 GMT -5
I only really got onto the forum a bit after indomitus but I'd assume when big sets like that come out there's at least a few people who would want to sell off one half or another. I'd assume not many people are like me who buy it then just own 1k points of necrons until you realize you don't like them a year later.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Feb 1, 2023 7:21:06 GMT -5
I only really got onto the forum a bit after indomitus but I'd assume when big sets like that come out there's at least a few people who would want to sell off one half or another. I'd assume not many people are like me who buy it then just own 1k points of necrons until you realize you don't like them a year later. I did the reverse... okay I've built my necrons, but now I have all these marines... guess I'm building a salamanders army!
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