Metawatch - Early Arks of Omens

[voodoo]

Some good insights here, and "the pulse" of the competetive meta.

www.warhammer-community.com/2023/02/16/warhammer-40000-metawatch-the-arks-of-omen-launch-the-latest-competitive-season/?utm_source=CUSTOMERS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GW_16th_February_Metawatch_ENG_&utm_content=&utm_term=

[Jack Shrapnel]

holy crap GSC are at the top?

(looks at shelves full of little dudes)

is this your time little buddies? is our day of ascension here?

shudders... oh no... GW is gonna nerf abberrants again aren't they?

[voodoo]

Feb 16, 2023 10:46:23 GMT -5 Jack Shrapnel said:

holy crap GSC are at the top?
(looks at shelves full of little dudes)
is this your time little buddies? is our day of ascension here?
shudders... oh no... GW is gonna nerf abberrants again aren't they?

QUICK! Play a bunch of games with them!!! Hammer in those wins while you can!!!

I'm guessing it's their ability to get out and score early on; while still having the ability to fade back and play cagey that has them winning well in the new AoO meta. Points adjustments and the balance dataslate seem to have them (from my GSC amateur eye) in a decent spot to have more bodies on the board. Plus, with the mild nerf to indirect fire weaponry, they're able to more reliably hug cover and/or pop out to deny points, even if they can't take them for themselves.

[Jack Shrapnel]

seems like the best performing GSC lists are spamming neophytes to take advantage of free wargear

sure neos are garbage... but if you have 180 obsec bodies on the board that can pop up anywhere, turns out you can score alot of secondary / primary points.

[voodoo]

It's the 40k equivalent of Whack-A-Mole...

[raceygaming]

Feb 16, 2023 10:46:23 GMT -5 Jack Shrapnel said:

holy crap GSC are at the top?

(looks at shelves full of little dudes)

is this your time little buddies? is our day of ascension here?

shudders... oh no... GW is gonna nerf abberrants again aren't they?

They have a really good win rate but they are not hitting top tables as much as you would think due to one or two bad match ups. They have great secondary scoring and are looking pretty fun right now.

[Typhus]

Oof - all that power armour at sub-50%.

Bring back Armour of Contempt!

[mrmanstory]

Harlequins took all those nerfs and are still at 55%? That's awesome!

[voodoo]

Feb 16, 2023 14:42:53 GMT -5 mrmanstory said:

Harlequins took all those nerfs and are still at 55%? That's awesome!

I'm guessing people flexed away from transports and bikes and leaned heavily into foot spam. When you can have that many fast moving bodies able to crank through objectives and can be set up to objectively blender most things they touch... it becomes a big "trade away" battle.

[raceygaming]

I'm happy that with the reversal of most of the Stratagem changes custodes are back to flexing some muscle in non dread spam and you are seeing some cool foot-odes builds

[sean]

When you look at just tournament data it's a bit of a different story


GSC 63%
DA 60%
Ynnari 60%*
Creations of Bile 59%*
Word Bearers 58%*
Demons 57%
Iron Hands 57%
Wolves 56%

*being less than 100 total games.

www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerCompetitive/comments/1118hib/meta_monday_21323_big_tournaments_and_a_first/


For Harlies, the main competitive style seems to be all troupes in boats, and just doing actions, scoring primary, while trying to avoid fighting the enemy. Seems like a pretty miserable play style.

[raceygaming]

I guess point update/ rules change coming around april (easter)

[mrmanstory]

Yeah when I was looking at starting harlies a lot of the gruff about the berf was it "forces" you into an "unfun" playstyle if you want to win with them. Oh well I'm getting into them to run their sweet jet bikes!