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Post by fumj79 on Feb 22, 2023 10:31:23 GMT -5
I'd gladly chip in / help with assembly. I definitely played on a table or two at the tourney that were sub optimal 😆
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Post by raceygaming on Feb 22, 2023 10:34:51 GMT -5
Ya it is true that with the GW style " Area Terrain Sheets there is a lot of 40k terrain at nexus that could be repurposed into making some of this style of terrain, if that is something people want to play.
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Post by thatguythere on Feb 22, 2023 10:49:17 GMT -5
Not to be a naysayer - and in fact I'd potentially be in for splitting one of those terrain sets ...
But isn't a new edition, with ne "default settings", more or less on the horizon?
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Post by raceygaming on Feb 22, 2023 11:04:32 GMT -5
Not to be a naysayer - and in fact I'd potentially be in for splitting one of those terrain sets ... But isn't a new edition, with ne "default settings", more or less on the horizon? No this is a ever fair point with 10th Ed coming in some where between June and Sept of 2023 you can guess that there will be new or changed rules for the terrain. It might be prudent to hold off on any major buys / retooling until the new edition. |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Feb 22, 2023 11:16:21 GMT -5
Love how many comments here and on the other two threads say that at clubs the terrain was not adequate, yet not a single person went and talked to me all weekend that a table needed more terrain.
There was tons of terrain there so more terrain (on a table that wasn't for the competition) could have been added.
If only someone would have mentioned something?
Yes I sound a bit salty about this because literally these comments are made after EVERY club champs and no one says anything beforehand or during.
Like in the half hour everyone is standing around talking in the back room before the tournament started, NO ONE noticed?
Do you think if you would have said "table X is a bit light on terrain" I wouldn't have responded "put something else on then for sure!"... like even between rounds I could have changed a table if it was not properly done.
Again, had no control over the tables people set up for the competition, but the rest could have certainly been changed at any time.
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Post by thatguythere on Feb 22, 2023 11:54:58 GMT -5
Love how many comments here and on the other two threads say that at clubs the terrain was not adequate, yet not a single person went and talked to me all weekend that a table needed more terrain. "Nexus needs more large / medium / small ruins if we're running 16 table tournaments" =/= "the terrain setups were bad". I hear a lot more of Type I than Type II. I personally very much lack any ability to tell a "good" setup from "bad" until I've played it (and probably lost, therefore, it's bad). "The tables lacked terrain" doesn't necessarily mean they needed MORE; maybe they needed different. It's not great feedback until you coordinate to find out which tables were light, and see if everyone agrees. The table I, personally, got shot at was definitely light, and the table my opponent hid at had too much Obscuring. Otoh, having played at Nexus a couple times now, more 'proper' terrain would be nice. The ruins for my League game tended to be larger-than-suggested, based on what was available. Plus, I'm just a sucker for ruined buildings. |
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Post by fumj79 on Feb 22, 2023 12:13:47 GMT -5
Love how many comments here and on the other two threads say that at clubs the terrain was not adequate, yet not a single person went and talked to me all weekend that a table needed more terrain. There was tons of terrain there so more terrain (on a table that wasn't for the competition) could have been added. If only someone would have mentioned something? Yes I sound a bit salty about this because literally these comments are made after EVERY club champs and no one says anything beforehand or during. Like in the half hour everyone is standing around talking in the back room before the tournament started, NO ONE noticed? Do you think if you would have said "table X is a bit light on terrain" I wouldn't have responded "put something else on then for sure!"... like even between rounds I could have changed a table if it was not properly done. Again, had no control over the tables people set up for the competition, but the rest could have certainly been changed at any time. Just to clarify my comment about the terrain was in no way meant to be a criticism of the setup of the terrain or organizaiton of the club champs. I personally thought that we were supposed to leave the tables as-is and there is only so much terrain at Nexus that suits the current tournament meta style tables. I was operating under the assumption that we all know most of the terrain is donated / store owned and that we're just making the best of what is there. Some good terrain for 9th, some bad, no fault of Shannon or anyone else who helped set up. Sorry if my comment came across that way. I was thinking of some similar ideas to Jordan for improving the terrain at Nexus - donating some cheap foam board created stuff etc. Or even making some plexi bases like the GW stuff but lacked the impetus to say anything so props to Jordan for putting the idea out there. I'm just here to help out. |
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Post by fumj79 on Feb 22, 2023 12:23:18 GMT -5
Love how many comments here and on the other two threads say that at clubs the terrain was not adequate, yet not a single person went and talked to me all weekend that a table needed more terrain. "Nexus needs more large / medium / small ruins if we're running 16 table tournaments" =/= "the terrain setups were bad". I hear a lot more of Type I than Type II. I personally very much lack any ability to tell a "good" setup from "bad" until I've played it (and probably lost, therefore, it's bad). "The tables lacked terrain" doesn't necessarily mean they needed MORE; maybe they needed different. It's not great feedback until you coordinate to find out which tables were light, and see if everyone agrees. The table I, personally, got shot at was definitely light, and the table my opponent hid at had too much Obscuring. Otoh, having played at Nexus a couple times now, more 'proper' terrain would be nice. The ruins for my League game tended to be larger-than-suggested, based on what was available. Plus, I'm just a sucker for ruined buildings. I agree its the lack of medium / small ruins. There are a lot of pieces at the store that are foam hills or solid buildings that you can't put your troops in that are fine for Sigmar but not so great for 40k unless you agree upon bending the terrain specifications. |
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Post by zhivas on Feb 26, 2023 20:53:09 GMT -5
fumj79 It might not be medium / small ruins we need but rather ruin walls / L shaped ruins and connected crates. The terrain setup GW and ITC recommend essentially has 2 L shaped ruins in each deployment zone essentially on the line with 2 further L shaped ruins in the center and either 2 blocks of crates or 2 ruin walls along with some dense cover (forest / steam vent etc). The reason this is done is that there are little or no direct fire lanes from DZ to DZ and proper staging areas for melee armies to make the trek up the board. It also encourages well thought out movement phases because positioning now becomes the most crucial part of the game
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