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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 1, 2023 14:31:06 GMT -5
You know what time it is? Time for a great crusade! SIGN UP HERE: kingstonnexus.ca/events/warhammer-40k-great-crusade-2023/Saturday April 22nd at Kingston Gaming Nexus Dice roll at 9:00 AM, doors open at 8:30 AM. 3 games for the day. (plus there is our traditional boss fight which happens at the end!) Entry fee: $20 Each round is two hours. Tournament Rules 1,500 point tournament. All armies must be battleforged. No Titanic units, Lords of War or Primarchs. Models which are not "primarch level" but are a supreme commander (shadowsun, Cawl or Morvan Vahl for example) are allowed. Supreme commanders Belakor and the Silent King would be considered "primarch level" and thus not be allowed. Any questions if your super cool amazing general is allowed feel free to ask! (this is a narrative tournament, so we're trying to err on the side of friendly!) You MUST include as your warlord a named SPECIAL CHARACTER from your relevant army book. It is their great crusade! So it’s about this character’s personal retinue of awesome they are bringing along for their personal crusade. (ie: if you play tyranids you’re going to have to include either deathleaper, Old one eye, or the swarmlord in your list and they must be your warlord) If your codex is GSC which has no named special characters, the patriarch may be used (only ONE per army however – it’s still their great crusade!).
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Post by mrmanstory on Mar 1, 2023 14:40:31 GMT -5
Hell yeah! Now onto the "debate with myself which army to run for a month and a half" phase lol
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Post by harryf on Mar 1, 2023 16:13:15 GMT -5
Is there a paint requirement? Would love to try something spicy but don't have a lot of paint time this month.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 1, 2023 17:06:23 GMT -5
No painting requirements
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Post by Typhus on Mar 1, 2023 20:22:40 GMT -5
No Titanic units, Lords of War or Primarchs. Models which are not "primarch level" but are a supreme commander (shadowsun, Cawl or Morvan Vahl for example) are allowed. Supreme commanders Belakor and the Silent King would be considered "primarch level" and thus not be allowed. Which side of the fence do Ghazkghul and Abaddon sit on?
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 1, 2023 21:12:24 GMT -5
which side would you LIKE them to sit on? lol
I was thinking Belakor and Silent king was too much... and Shadowsun/Vahl seemed pretty reasonable
Abbadon and Ghaz are pretty darn good... but are they TOO much?
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Post by cmcd on Mar 1, 2023 21:29:07 GMT -5
I think Abbadon has already had 13 crusades its time for someone else
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Post by mrmanstory on Mar 1, 2023 21:32:26 GMT -5
If we are gonna discuss abbadon and ghaz I'd like to throw guilliman in there. Maybe it's a lost cause considering it's called "primarch level" but Abby and ghaz are certainly stronger than Bobby G is. I'd even say that vahl would be stronger at this point than the boy in blue. I'm perfectly fine with him being left out but just seems hard to split the named characters into these categories.
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Post by harryf on Mar 1, 2023 21:42:14 GMT -5
What if we capped it at less than 300 points, which would be 20% of the total point level
Which is to say, the highest point warlord can be is 299 points, which would exclude all the lords of war.
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Post by raceygaming on Mar 1, 2023 21:53:24 GMT -5
If we are gonna discuss abbadon and ghaz I'd like to throw guilliman in there. Maybe it's a lost cause considering it's called "primarch level" but Abby and ghaz are certainly stronger than Bobby G is. I'd even say that vahl would be stronger at this point than the boy in blue. I'm perfectly fine with him being left out but just seems hard to split the named characters into these categories. He is already covered by the no Primarch Clause, in the same way if the Lion comes out before April 22nd he would be excluded.
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Post by raceygaming on Mar 1, 2023 22:00:36 GMT -5
which side would you LIKE them to sit on? lol I was thinking Belakor and Silent king was too much... and Shadowsun/Vahl seemed pretty reasonable Abbadon and Ghaz are pretty darn good... but are they TOO much? I'm up for anything at this point in terms of let people play what they want. No matter where we put the cut off there is going to be some one who is the next best. I will say maybe I'm in the minority here but I would like to put in a clause letting Canis Rex and the Chaos abominant be allowed to break the LOW rule so that EVERY faction is playable, in case there are people getting into the hobby that only have one army. In the same way that GSC and Harlequins have an exception to make the Patriarch and Solitaire "named Characters" to fit the format better. I honestly don't see knights being a major issues at 1500 pts these days if they are forced to bring at least 1 big knight that eats up close to 1/3 of their points.
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Post by Typhus on Mar 1, 2023 22:46:53 GMT -5
If we are gonna discuss abbadon and ghaz I'd like to throw guilliman in there. Maybe it's a lost cause considering it's called "primarch level" but Abby and ghaz are certainly stronger than Bobby G is. I'd even say that vahl would be stronger at this point than the boy in blue. I'm perfectly fine with him being left out but just seems hard to split the named characters into these categories. He is already covered by the no Primarch Clause, in the same way if the Lion comes out before April 22nd he would be excluded. I believe this is asking to allow Guilliman, rather than to ban him. Personally, I think we should either ban Ghazkghul and Abaddon, or else allow everything. There's always going to be a best Character - if we ban Be'lakor and the LoWs, then Rotigus or Skarbrand or something will likely be the Character to beat. If we ban them too then Leontus, Drazhar, or the Phoenix Lords will be the strongest left. And so on, and so on.
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Post by MagnusTheThicc on Mar 1, 2023 22:51:53 GMT -5
I am a new player with only 1 army. Can I have knights please?
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 2, 2023 7:26:13 GMT -5
My only issue with the high powered characters is that it devolves into "everyone has to bring a high powered character because everyone else is"
so the more thematic special characters get left in the dust because why would you bring Ventris if you know you are going to face Abbadon, Canis Rex and Be'lakor?
I'm all for letting the people decide as always lol... I'm a sucker for this broken democracy thing...
So quick poll it is. Two options... you can only vote once.
Poll locks Monday... so if you have an opinion please voice it. If it's close, we err on the side of limitations.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 2, 2023 8:51:35 GMT -5
Giving this further thought, if there are restrictions, I would consider Abby/ Ghaz to be "primarch level"
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