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Post by voodoo on Mar 29, 2023 10:40:42 GMT -5
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Post by LizardTau on Mar 29, 2023 10:56:56 GMT -5
Damn the lion woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I don't want to get in his way. Lol
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Post by trantos01 on Mar 29, 2023 17:07:03 GMT -5
If the Lion and Angron get into a melee fight, I imagine that the winner will be the one that swings first. Because with the number of attacks each has and the amount of damage they can do, you only need to fail a few 4+ invuls to get taken down in that fight.
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Post by nekekami on Mar 29, 2023 17:47:13 GMT -5
If the Lion and Angron get into a melee fight, I imagine that the winner will be the one that swings first. Because with the number of attacks each has and the amount of damage they can do, you only need to fail a few 4+ invuls to get taken down in that fight. Will also depends on what other rules he inherits from his Dark Angels. Like, if he gets Inner Circle for example, and can't be wounded on less than 4+ that will go a long way to upping his fairly average survivability. Also, Lion has L11 which is more than Guilliman's, who is said to be the better leader and tactician. I can't help but think it means something we haven't been shown yet.
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Post by lightcavalier on Mar 29, 2023 18:12:38 GMT -5
If the Lion and Angron get into a melee fight, I imagine that the winner will be the one that swings first. Because with the number of attacks each has and the amount of damage they can do, you only need to fail a few 4+ invuls to get taken down in that fight. Will also depends on what other rules he inherits from his Dark Angels. Like, if he gets Inner Circle for example, and can't be wounded on less than 4+ that will go a long way to upping his fairly average survivability. Also, Lion has L11 which is more than Guilliman's, who is said to be the better leader and tactician. I can't help but think it means something we haven't been shown yet. Honestly I think that has more to do with the fact that until the Custodes codex Ld was capped at 10 as a stat. Since Guilliman hasnt actually gotten new rules since 8th edition, it stands to reason he would have Ld 11 had he been re-written by now. End of the day this all matters for ~3-4 months sadly
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Post by voodoo on Mar 29, 2023 21:19:22 GMT -5
Or, they're releaseing him into "the wild" knowing that his stats are mainly staying the same from 9th to 10th; and it'll be shifting where the numbers are attributed to. I don't know all the values, but LD of 11 is fairly super hideously rare if not THE only value above 10 we've seen thus far.
Could prove to be something they're trying to get us to wrap our heads around before 10th has values above 10 that kinda blow our minds a bit.
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Post by distractedcarnifex on Mar 29, 2023 22:18:54 GMT -5
That’s some 4D chess!
In any case, this is a “shut up and take my money!” situation for me...
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Post by trantos01 on Mar 29, 2023 22:31:55 GMT -5
Either way I can see everybody loading up on deep strike reaction capability and/or as many cheap screening units as possible.
Because you cannot afford to let the Lion hit your main lines. Guy could probably one-shot a Warhound titan with relative ease. Only saving grace is that he can't negate invuls (as far as we know).
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Post by lightcavalier on Mar 30, 2023 4:49:04 GMT -5
Or, they're releaseing him into "the wild" knowing that his stats are mainly staying the same from 9th to 10th; and it'll be shifting where the numbers are attributed to. I don't know all the values, but LD of 11 is fairly super hideously rare if not THE only value above 10 we've seen thus far. Could prove to be something they're trying to get us to wrap our heads around before 10th has values above 10 that kinda blow our minds a bit. The entire custodes codex is Ld 11
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Post by brujonation on Mar 30, 2023 8:07:49 GMT -5
Super scary stats. with his sweep he gets 20 attacks @ S6 -3ap D2. lol he will plow through hordes and tanks alike.
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Post by drew on Mar 30, 2023 8:25:52 GMT -5
Super scary stats. with his sweep he gets 20 attacks @ S6 -3ap D2. lol he will plow through hordes and tanks alike. 22 of them on a charge assuming shock assault. He's definitely going to be able to kill his way through most things he connects with
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Post by brujonation on Mar 30, 2023 11:42:23 GMT -5
Super scary stats. with his sweep he gets 20 attacks @ S6 -3ap D2. lol he will plow through hordes and tanks alike. 22 of them on a charge assuming shock assault. He's definitely going to be able to kill his way through most things he connects with reliably he will kill a 10man of marines. probably will kill a 5 man of terminators reliably, a block of 10 terminators will survive the first round but won't the 2nd round. if he does get inner circle, holy moly he will be Hella hard to take down.
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Post by voodoo on Mar 31, 2023 8:37:50 GMT -5
In the eyes of mortal spam, everything dies easily.
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Post by trantos01 on Mar 31, 2023 18:17:06 GMT -5
if he does get inner circle, holy moly he will be Hella hard to take down. Doesn't Inner Circle specifically apply to Dark Angel infantry or something? Last I checked, Primarchs were classified as 'Monsters' so he'd need his own rule for that.
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Post by brujonation on Apr 1, 2023 8:30:48 GMT -5
if he does get inner circle, holy moly he will be Hella hard to take down. Doesn't Inner Circle specifically apply to Dark Angel infantry or something? Last I checked, Primarchs were classified as 'Monsters' so he'd need his own rule for that. I'm not sure honestly, I don't really play loyalists lol.
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