Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 14, 2023 11:51:29 GMT -5
www.goonhammer.com/ruleshammer-40k-qa-14th-july-2023/
There's a few things in here but what struck me was this:
"Can a unit with an ability to use a Stratagem twice in the same phase Overwatch for a second time in that phase?
Probably. There’s some clear indications that this is meant to work but I really can see why people are thinking it might not. Let’s start with the basic form of these abilities.
Will of the Hive Mind: Once per turn, one friendly Tyranids unit within 12″ of one or more models with this ability can be targeted with a Stratagem for 0CP, even if another unit from your army has already been targeted with that Stratagem this phase.
seems relatively straight forward, gives an exception to the usual restriction using a stratagem you’ve already used that phase… why are people suggesting Overwatch is special? It because Overwatch has a restriction of its own.
RESTRICTIONS: Until the end of the phase, each time a model in your unit makes a ranged attack, an unmodified Hit roll of 6 is required to score a hit, irrespective of the attacking weapon’s Ballistic Skill or any modifiers. You can only use this Stratagem once per turn.
And some are arguing that clause isn’t ignored by the Will of the Hive mind. If that was the end of it I’d pretty comfortably have the opinion that they were correct, however Asurmen causes ambiguity.
Tactical Acumen: Once per turn, you can target this model’s unit with the Fire Overwatch Stratagem for 0CP, and can do so even if you have already used that Stratagem on a different unit this phase.
Clearly this ability is meant to allow for two used of Overwatch within the same phase, but is also doesn’t have an exception for Overwatch’s once per turn limitation. Anyone arguing that the intent of Tactical Acumen isn’t clear though would be disingenuous as such here’s my suggestion.
Pre-FAQ Suggestion: Yes, abilities to use a Stratagem again within a phase do allow for two uses of the Overwatch stratagem, so long as they are both in the same phase. As in: if you used Overwatch in the Movement phase, it can’t be used again in the Charge phase with one of these abilities.
There's a few things in here but what struck me was this:
"Can a unit with an ability to use a Stratagem twice in the same phase Overwatch for a second time in that phase?
Probably. There’s some clear indications that this is meant to work but I really can see why people are thinking it might not. Let’s start with the basic form of these abilities.
Will of the Hive Mind: Once per turn, one friendly Tyranids unit within 12″ of one or more models with this ability can be targeted with a Stratagem for 0CP, even if another unit from your army has already been targeted with that Stratagem this phase.
seems relatively straight forward, gives an exception to the usual restriction using a stratagem you’ve already used that phase… why are people suggesting Overwatch is special? It because Overwatch has a restriction of its own.
RESTRICTIONS: Until the end of the phase, each time a model in your unit makes a ranged attack, an unmodified Hit roll of 6 is required to score a hit, irrespective of the attacking weapon’s Ballistic Skill or any modifiers. You can only use this Stratagem once per turn.
And some are arguing that clause isn’t ignored by the Will of the Hive mind. If that was the end of it I’d pretty comfortably have the opinion that they were correct, however Asurmen causes ambiguity.
Tactical Acumen: Once per turn, you can target this model’s unit with the Fire Overwatch Stratagem for 0CP, and can do so even if you have already used that Stratagem on a different unit this phase.
Clearly this ability is meant to allow for two used of Overwatch within the same phase, but is also doesn’t have an exception for Overwatch’s once per turn limitation. Anyone arguing that the intent of Tactical Acumen isn’t clear though would be disingenuous as such here’s my suggestion.
Pre-FAQ Suggestion: Yes, abilities to use a Stratagem again within a phase do allow for two uses of the Overwatch stratagem, so long as they are both in the same phase. As in: if you used Overwatch in the Movement phase, it can’t be used again in the Charge phase with one of these abilities.
