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Post by noideawhatshappening on Aug 9, 2023 15:29:53 GMT -5
++ Army Roster (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [1,985pts, 12Cabal Points] +++ Configuration +Battle Size: 2. Strike Force (2000 Point limit) Detachment Choice: Cult of Magic Rituals reference+ Epic Hero +Magnus the Red [410pts, 4Cabal Points]+ Character +Infernal Master [95pts, 2Cabal Points]: Umbralefic Crystal + Battleline +Rubric Marines [95pts, 1Cabal Points]: Icon of Flame . Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno bolt pistol . 3x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 3x Close combat weapon, 3x Inferno boltgun . Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer Rubric Marines [95pts, 1Cabal Points]. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno bolt pistol . 3x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 3x Close combat weapon, 3x Inferno boltgun . Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer Rubric Marines [95pts, 1Cabal Points]. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno bolt pistol . 2x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 2x Close combat weapon, 2x Inferno boltgun . 2x Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer: 2x Close combat weapon, 2x Warpflamer Rubric Marines [95pts, 1Cabal Points]. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno bolt pistol . 2x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 2x Close combat weapon, 2x Inferno boltgun . 2x Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer: 2x Close combat weapon, 2x Warpflamer + Infantry +Scarab Occult Terminators [410pts, 1Cabal Points]: Hellfyre missile rack . Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Inferno combi-bolter . 4x Scarab Occult Terminator: 4x Inferno combi-bolter, 4x Prosperine khopesh . Scarab Occult Terminator w/ soulreaper cannon Scarab Occult Terminators [410pts, 1Cabal Points]: Hellfyre missile rack . Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Inferno combi-bolter . 4x Scarab Occult Terminator: 4x Inferno combi-bolter, 4x Prosperine khopesh . Scarab Occult Terminator w/ heavy warpflamer + Monster +Mutalith Vortex Beast [145pts]+ Vehicle +Thousand Sons Forgefiend [135pts]: Forgefiend jaws . 2 Hades autocannons ++ Total: [12Cabal Points, 1,985pts] ++Created with BattleScribe
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Post by voodoo on Aug 10, 2023 11:02:10 GMT -5
The Terminators and Rubrics are solid, but I wouldn't run them without characters in the units themselves; warpflamers are good, but soulreapers are better, unless you run a unit with ALL flamers and push them up the board. Exalted Sorcerers are best for being attached to Rubrics as they recycle casualties every turn. Magnus is an absolute beatstick, and will do lots of work for you for sure. I haven't looked at Forgefiends all that closely, but the vortex beast offers some cool utility if you have the Cabal Points to throw around. Maybe look again at Helbrutes, they got a big synergy boost in 10th. Bones of the list look good, try it out, see if you like it and tweak from there. My suggestions are based on a playstyle that I enjoy, so take with some salt and find what works for you.  Welcome to 10th! |
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Post by noideawhatshappening on Aug 10, 2023 13:52:53 GMT -5
Oh? They still have the revival thing? I thought that was a Cult of time thing. Did it just become a standard ability? I'm not seeing it, but I may just be kinda stupid. This is my new list I tossed together ++ Army Roster (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [1,990pts, 13Cabal Points] +++ Configuration +Battle Size: 2. Strike Force (2000 Point limit) Detachment Choice: Cult of Magic Rituals reference+ Epic Hero +Magnus the Red [410pts, 4Cabal Points]+ Character +Infernal Master [95pts, 2Cabal Points]: Umbralefic Crystal Thousand Sons Sorcerer [100pts, 1Cabal Points]: Arcane Vortex, Warpflame pistol Thousand Sons Sorcerer [110pts, 1Cabal Points]: Lord of Forbidden Lore, Warpflame pistol + Battleline +Rubric Marines [95pts, 1Cabal Points]: Icon of Flame . Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno bolt pistol . 3x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 3x Close combat weapon, 3x Inferno boltgun . Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer Rubric Marines [95pts, 1Cabal Points]. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno bolt pistol . 3x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 3x Close combat weapon, 3x Inferno boltgun . Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer Rubric Marines [95pts, 1Cabal Points]. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno bolt pistol . 2x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 2x Close combat weapon, 2x Inferno boltgun . 2x Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer: 2x Close combat weapon, 2x Warpflamer + Infantry +Scarab Occult Terminators [205pts, 1Cabal Points]: Hellfyre missile rack . Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Inferno combi-bolter . 3x Scarab Occult Terminator: 3x Inferno combi-bolter, 3x Prosperine khopesh . Scarab Occult Terminator w/ soulreaper cannon Scarab Occult Terminators [205pts, 1Cabal Points]: Hellfyre missile rack . Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Inferno combi-bolter . 3x Scarab Occult Terminator: 3x Inferno combi-bolter, 3x Prosperine khopesh . Scarab Occult Terminator w/ soulreaper cannon + Monster +Mutalith Vortex Beast [145pts]Mutalith Vortex Beast [145pts]+ Vehicle +Thousand Sons Helbrute [145pts]. Helbrute fist with heavy flamer . Helbrute fist with heavy flamer Thousand Sons Helbrute [145pts]: Missile launcher, Twin lascannon ++ Total: [13Cabal Points, 1,990pts] ++Created with BattleScribe |
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Post by voodoo on Aug 10, 2023 14:05:44 GMT -5
Exalted Sorcerers get to roll to revive in every command phase; it's baked in to them so long as they're leading a squad of rubrics, but no other HQ's get the ability. Furthermore, they also passively buff Rubrics to a 4++.
I'd also combine the termies into a single brick of 10. All of those wounds are HARD to shift. Toss in a terminator sorcerer, and you've got lethal hits on the Scarab occult as well as the ability to pick a unit witin 18" and get army wide re-roll 1's to hit until the end of the turn.
Besides being a CP battery, I haven't seen much use for Infernal Masters, but I wasn't a big fan of them in 9th either, so that might just be internal bias.
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Post by noideawhatshappening on Aug 10, 2023 14:10:09 GMT -5
OK, I'll try to put that in, but admittedly, I'm very new to 10th ed. So I can put a character unit, inside a other unit? They're still separate units right? Like when it comes to attacks on the Rubric Marines I could or couldn't choose to have that spread to the character? Same with morale and Battle shock and the like?
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 10, 2023 14:39:51 GMT -5
Characters become part of the unit they're attached to and all attacks must go against the bodyguard unit until they're all dead, then the character becomes their own independent unit again.
Exception being precision attacks can target characters
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Post by noideawhatshappening on Aug 10, 2023 14:49:13 GMT -5
That makes sense, sounds good. So the character is basically invincible while they have a unit guarding them. Here's the new list. ++ Army Roster (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [1,995pts, 14Cabal Points] +++ Configuration +Battle Size: 2. Strike Force (2000 Point limit) Detachment Choice: Cult of Magic Rituals reference+ Epic Hero +Magnus the Red [410pts, 4Cabal Points]+ Character +Exalted Sorcerer [90pts, 2Cabal Points]: Prosperine khopesh, Warpflame pistol Exalted Sorcerer [110pts, 2Cabal Points]: Athenaen Scrolls, Plasma pistol, Prosperine khopesh Exalted Sorcerer [110pts, 2Cabal Points]: Inferno bolt pistol, Prosperine khopesh, Umbralefic Crystal + Battleline +Rubric Marines [95pts, 1Cabal Points]: Icon of Flame . Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno bolt pistol . 3x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 3x Close combat weapon, 3x Inferno boltgun . Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer Rubric Marines [95pts, 1Cabal Points]. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno bolt pistol . 3x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 3x Close combat weapon, 3x Inferno boltgun . Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer Rubric Marines [95pts, 1Cabal Points]. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno bolt pistol . 2x Rubric Marine w/ inferno boltgun: 2x Close combat weapon, 2x Inferno boltgun . 2x Rubric Marine w/ warpflamer: 2x Close combat weapon, 2x Warpflamer + Infantry +Scarab Occult Terminators [410pts, 1Cabal Points]: Hellfyre missile rack . Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Inferno combi-bolter . 8x Scarab Occult Terminator: 8x Inferno combi-bolter, 8x Prosperine khopesh . Scarab Occult Terminator w/ soulreaper cannon + Monster +Mutalith Vortex Beast [145pts]Mutalith Vortex Beast [145pts]+ Vehicle +Thousand Sons Helbrute [145pts]. Helbrute fist with heavy flamer . Helbrute fist with heavy flamer Thousand Sons Helbrute [145pts]: Missile launcher, Twin lascannon ++ Total: [14Cabal Points, 1,995pts] ++Created with BattleScribe |
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Post by voodoo on Aug 10, 2023 15:15:55 GMT -5
That's all detailed in the "characters joining units" portion of the main rulebook, available for free download from the GW page. Also located in the "Helpful Links" area on the upper main page of the forums.
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Post by noideawhatshappening on Aug 10, 2023 16:49:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I learn better when people discuss/explain it too me rather than reading. But I guess I really should just get it done huh?
Aside from that, how's the list look?
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Post by voodoo on Aug 11, 2023 9:07:06 GMT -5
I think the bones looks good. In the games I've played with my Sons, they are VERY much a synergy dependant army. You really have to pick one strategy/trick they can do and run with it; because if you try too much, than it's just going to go poorly I find.
The bonus is they have lots of different pieces that can play to different approaches, so try things, adjust, try again and see what your optimal setup looks like in regards to what you have vs. what you like the looks of vs. what performs the way you most enjoy to play.
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Post by noideawhatshappening on Aug 11, 2023 10:04:00 GMT -5
Sounds good, thanks king
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Welcome to 10th! 
