Secret Santa Orks - ALL PIRATES!!!!! - Hypothetical

[raceygaming]

So I have always wanted to get an all Flash Git Army onto the table and this might be the year I can make it work with a little luck. I have 2 versions depending on what I can swing. It will also depend on some play testing of a FW model.

THE BADRUKKS Revenge - 995 pts


Captain Badrukk - 80 pts

10 Flash gits - 190 pts

9 Flash gits -190 pts ( paying for full unit but only take 9 to hit transport cap)

5 Flash Gits - 95 pts


FW Gargantuan Squiggoth - 440 pts - Transports 20


So the Idea here is that The Gargantuan Squiggoth is carrying the pirate ship on its back and its full of 19 flash gits + Capt Badrukk. While inside a transport it turns off all the re-rolls and the extra shots for shooting closest target.
There is a unit of 5 flash gits on the boarding party that have to stand in the back field cause i'm out of points and transports cap. I get 4 units for objective play and no hard hitting ork melee , outside the Gargantuan squiggoth who is tough to kill.

(this list requires me to borrow/buy 10 flash gits)


List 2


THE JOLLYSQUIGGOTH - 1000 pts

Captain Badrukk - 80 pts

10 Flash gits - 190 pts

5 Flash Gits - 95 pts

1 Mek gun - 55 pts

11 Grots - 40 pts

11 Grots -40 pts

1 Trukk - 60 pts ( The Row boat)

FW Gargantuan Squiggoth - 440 pts - Transports 20


So similar idea but less investment in flash gits (only own 15) and a bit more light and easy to kill grots to help play objects a bit better. again while inside a transport it turns off all the re-rolls and the extra shots for shooting closest target on flash gitz, so flash kinda want to get out at some point
Still no hard hitting ork melee , outside the Gargantuan squiggoth who is tough to kill, but a bit more objective play with 8 units.

Either way I need so get in some play testing with the Gargantuan Squiggoth and make sure his isn't too non-interactive or powerful at 1000 pts (being almost half the list). Then I will need to clear it with Shannon.

*** IF you have FLASH GITZ for borrow or sale please let me know!!!

[Jack Shrapnel]

This seems pretty thematic and fun.

squiggoth has a lot of wounds, but is only T8, so anything even remotely anti-tank is going to chew through it eventually. (3+ save and no invul too)

It's nasty in melee.. it's shooting is pretty "meh" so not an issue... but with the full sized tables will stop it from just stampeding into a first turn charge.

So I think it's alright.

[raceygaming]

Oct 25, 2023 13:19:17 GMT -5 Jack Shrapnel said:

This seems pretty thematic and fun.

squiggoth has a lot of wounds, but is only T8, so anything even remotely anti-tank is going to chew through it eventually. (3+ save and no invul too)

It's nasty in melee.. it's shooting is pretty "meh" so not an issue... but with the full sized tables will stop it from just stampeding into a first turn charge.

So I think it's alright.

It's the gargantuan I'd be using. I currently don't have the squiggoth model.

It's more like a knight rampages...no Ranged all melee. 3+ save and no invuls and only 10" move.
It is T 13 so you need S7.

It will need play testing for sure just to make sure it isn't unfun

[Jack Shrapnel]

whoops... when I went to Wahapedia it was incorrectly selected as 9th edition....

T13 is a LOT for secret santa... like alot alot.... I'm not sure how that would play out for people.

ie: would a friendly list be able to even deal with that?

[raceygaming]

Oct 25, 2023 15:54:25 GMT -5 Jack Shrapnel said:

whoops... when I went to Wahapedia it was incorrectly selected as 9th edition....

T13 is a LOT for secret santa... like alot alot.... I'm not sure how that would play out for people.

ie: would a friendly list be able to even deal with that?

That is fair. That's why I wanted to play test to make sure it isn't non interactive or too much.

I could turn his 440 pts into 5 trukks and still have points left but I think that makes the list stronger.

[raceygaming]

So after 2 play tests ( obviously also Shannon NIXing the idea too) the gargantuan squiggoth at 1000 point isn't good but is a game of non interaction.

You can't kill it unless your list has all the toys. He only kills about 10-15 models in 5 turns but you might as well not give your opponents a shooting phase/ fight phase which just isn't fun.


I will test a later game at 2000 pts now that I see how it works.

[raceygaming]

Ok so have a couple of ideas I'm bouncing around, trying to find a balance between being secret Santa funny but still having a chance at winning something. I'm looking for input or thoughts, not sure where to go with this.


List 1 - Famous Players - Most of the names orks

Ghaz 235
Boss Snikrot 85
Boss Zagstruk 90
Kap Badrukk 80
Mad Dok Grotsnik 65

10 kommandos 135
5 storm boyz 65
5 flash gitz 95
10 boyz - 85
Trukk - 60

Honestly, its a pretty bad cluster of named people and the unit they go in with a solo Ghaz. Can it win, that's a big maybe. Will something funny happen that's a yes.

List 2 - Ghaz Bully boys and Grots

Ghaz 235
6 meganobz 180

3 killa kans 150
3 killa kans 150
11 grots 40
11 grots 40
11 grots 40
1 mek gun 55 - Bubblechucker
2 mek gun 110 -Bubblechucker

If you ain't a bully boy your a grot in this list. A big but slow anvil to hold the centre and focus on getting into a fight. The grots play the winger in the kill kans and some grots and mek guns hold down the back line. Bubblechucker is the most random gun there is. might be able to focus board control for a win.

List 3 The bad Waagh - aka Speed waaagh lite

Wartrike w Super cybork body 85
6 bikes - 140
3 bikes - 70
Shokkjump - 85
Scrapjet - 90
Squigbuggy - 110
trukk - 60
10 beast boyz - 100
1 beast boss -100
grots -40
grots 40
storm -65

I looked at running a 9 buggy bike/ bikeboss list but it felt a little spammy even if the spam isn't too good only having T7 might be unfun. So this is my bad speed waagh. Still bikes/buggies but a trukk and some back line grots to hold things down. This might be fast enough to play tactical but folds to any sort of S7 shooting which having limited melee to fight back.

[question]

Having played my share of orks, I like lists 1 & 2. #2 has that element of the bubblechucker that can give you those ridiculously funny moments in a "friendly" game but getting all the names in the game also can have funny results. Good luck with whichever list you pick.

[Jack Shrapnel]

I think #2 is the most "secret santa funny" while still having some good stuff in there but not overpowered. Sure Ghaz and crew are good... but the majority of the list are grots which I think tempers it down a bit.

[raceygaming]

Nov 16, 2023 14:19:41 GMT -5 Jack Shrapnel said:

I think #2 is the most "secret santa funny" while still having some good stuff in there but not overpowered. Sure Ghaz and crew are good... but the majority of the list are grots which I think tempers it down a bit.

I will give another play test to make sure the Ghaz ball isn't too much, they only move 5" so not the fastest thing in the game but they are decent if they get there.

[Jack Shrapnel]

oh it's a good unit... but walking makes it a lot easier to deal with at range a bit before he hits combat and mulches things.

if he's ignored though... well that's gonna end badly lol!

[raceygaming]

Ya I'm new to the ghaz train. He is showing up more and more has the marine packing lots hit the upper tables.

Seem he and 2 mega usually ride in a battle wagon since he is so slow.

[cmcd]

You need your wagons made from Dark Eldar skimmers. With wheels of course.