Post by Jack Shrapnel on Aug 26, 2011 15:08:31 GMT -5
Okay, so there's been a fair mix of super awesome and meh so far, and we only have one spot left... so let's look at the big guys!
now you'll notice there's no heavy support immolators anymore... yes, someone at GW got beat up with immolator spam at a tourney and didn't want that happening ever again! so now the exorcist is the no brainer right? well.... not exactly....
Choice one: Exorcist
The exorcist is still an awesome tank. It remains pretty much the exact same with the exception of you getting free smoke launchers for the same cost and the 6++ I'm buddies with the emperor save... pretty sweet eh? okay smoke is relatively useless as you want to be shooting exorcist launchers every turn, but that 6++ is a nice addition for no extra cost and overall the exorcist is still a very cool option (it really didn't need to get any better and is costed appropriately so didn't need to really change)
Choice two: Retributor Squad
ever see these before? no, me neither.... they kinda sucked last dex due to being girls on foot with heavy bolters (or super expensive multimeltas) ... so why wouldn't you just take exorcists or immolator spam? well that's what everyone did... so still a clearcut choice? not really.....
They're 10 points more expensive now, but as with everything else, include the vet sister superior (who is just "sister superior" now... was kind of silly to have two champ options anyways)... they get the 6++ emperor loves me save (meh) and some free grenades (when are they assaulting again?)
okay... why are these good?
well they also get heavy bolters at a third of the price of the old dex.... or multimeltas at less than half the price of the old dex.... they can ride in either an immolator or a rhino (used to be just immolators).... oh and they get divine guidance.... so rending heavy bolters.... how you like them apples heretic?
(and yes it's real rending, not the pseudo rending from the last book)... in case math is not your friend... on a rend these heavy bolters auto-pen rhino chasis, and can glance a landraider.... yes please!!! Only four can take the heavy weapons, so if you buy more, they're really just ablative wounds.... which still seems like a good idea!
Choice three - Penitent engine
well you rarely saw these guys either... AV11 open topped isn't exactly survivable... still isn't and these guys have their stat line stay the same in every way..... and they're five points more expensive than before....
They still have holy rage and still ignore shaken and stunned results.... still have random attacks....
so exactly the same? well not exactly....
See now they have unstoppable rampage... which lets them get an extra attack whenever they inflict a wound in close combat (these don't generate further attacks... we ain't a furioso!) so this is pretty cool and could potentially, if all goes perfect, generate sixteen attacks each on the charge! (if you roll a six on the random roll, are charging, and hit with everything that is... yeah, don't see that happening either!)
You also get a 6++ which is less the emperor loves you and more that the emperor is very disappointed in you still, but wants you to hit close combat to die instead of from across the board
So better than before for sure... but still extremely prone to being forced into bad charges due to rage, and still AV11 open topped, so is not very likely to be allowed to hit combat....
.....still a very sweet model... and I am very tempted to buy three of them just to paint them up and try them out.... alongside my exorcists of course! (go ahead... leave the exorcists alone and target the engines!) ;D
now you'll notice there's no heavy support immolators anymore... yes, someone at GW got beat up with immolator spam at a tourney and didn't want that happening ever again! so now the exorcist is the no brainer right? well.... not exactly....
Choice one: Exorcist
The exorcist is still an awesome tank. It remains pretty much the exact same with the exception of you getting free smoke launchers for the same cost and the 6++ I'm buddies with the emperor save... pretty sweet eh? okay smoke is relatively useless as you want to be shooting exorcist launchers every turn, but that 6++ is a nice addition for no extra cost and overall the exorcist is still a very cool option (it really didn't need to get any better and is costed appropriately so didn't need to really change)
Choice two: Retributor Squad
ever see these before? no, me neither.... they kinda sucked last dex due to being girls on foot with heavy bolters (or super expensive multimeltas) ... so why wouldn't you just take exorcists or immolator spam? well that's what everyone did... so still a clearcut choice? not really.....
They're 10 points more expensive now, but as with everything else, include the vet sister superior (who is just "sister superior" now... was kind of silly to have two champ options anyways)... they get the 6++ emperor loves me save (meh) and some free grenades (when are they assaulting again?)
okay... why are these good?
well they also get heavy bolters at a third of the price of the old dex.... or multimeltas at less than half the price of the old dex.... they can ride in either an immolator or a rhino (used to be just immolators).... oh and they get divine guidance.... so rending heavy bolters.... how you like them apples heretic?
(and yes it's real rending, not the pseudo rending from the last book)... in case math is not your friend... on a rend these heavy bolters auto-pen rhino chasis, and can glance a landraider.... yes please!!! Only four can take the heavy weapons, so if you buy more, they're really just ablative wounds.... which still seems like a good idea!Choice three - Penitent engine
well you rarely saw these guys either... AV11 open topped isn't exactly survivable... still isn't and these guys have their stat line stay the same in every way..... and they're five points more expensive than before....
They still have holy rage and still ignore shaken and stunned results.... still have random attacks....
so exactly the same?
well not exactly....See now they have unstoppable rampage... which lets them get an extra attack whenever they inflict a wound in close combat (these don't generate further attacks... we ain't a furioso!) so this is pretty cool and could potentially, if all goes perfect, generate sixteen attacks each on the charge! (if you roll a six on the random roll, are charging, and hit with everything that is... yeah, don't see that happening either!)
You also get a 6++ which is less the emperor loves you and more that the emperor is very disappointed in you still, but wants you to hit close combat to die instead of from across the board
So better than before for sure... but still extremely prone to being forced into bad charges due to rage, and still AV11 open topped, so is not very likely to be allowed to hit combat....
.....still a very sweet model... and I am very tempted to buy three of them just to paint them up and try them out.... alongside my exorcists of course! (go ahead... leave the exorcists alone and target the engines!) ;D
