Chaos Space Marines - The Rent Souls

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Here are two lists: One is the maximum I can field and the other a good ol' 1850 list

Flavor: With this big of an army, I'm obviosuly going for cheese. In terms of army build direction, I'm going for a close cross-over point between a CSM army and a Daemon army. I hope to add a modded Defile and some Obliterators to the list, some day.

I'm trying to depict the sort of progression from basic marine, through corrupted, to posessed to beyond. So, for example, a Marine would spend some time in a Troop Squad, then move up to a Chosen Marine where they'd work even more closely with other corrupted Marines and the gods themselves. After a time they'd start to develop as Posessed Marines. If the gods were feeling generous, or distracted, they may even reach such vaunted levels as that of the Spawn! Havocs would be "Obliterators in training" kind of deal. The Sorc Lord acts as a 'conductor' of sorts (despite the lack of Slaneesh in the army, hah!) for the progression, with a Daemon Prince overseeing everything.

Tactics:

Kharn would be joining up with the Berserkers and spearheading the assault. The squads of marines would be providing mobile fire support for said advance. Or taking objectives as the line is pushed over them.

The Sorc Lord would be joining up with the Thousand Sons and hunkering down on an objective or seeking out something big and nasty to tear apart with warp energies.

The Raptors would be joined with the Lord wielding the Daemon Weapon and most likely be pushing for a flank or objective. Possibly deep strike them, I dunno.

I'd actually keep the Daemon Prince in the rear, guarding the Havocs and any other squads that linger along the rear flank. Even if he ends up being a turn or two out of Assault range, he still has DoomBolt to reach out and touch someone with. Nothing better to deter pesky flanking maneuvers and deepstrikes like a big ol meatgrinder stalking about... waiting...

The Chosen and (rolling permitting) the Posessed will most certainly be making flanking maneuvers.

The Havoc squad would likely hunker down in some cover with a good firing arc and simply do what they do best. With a good mix of weaponry, and the Daemon Prince lurking about, they should be able to handle most anything that challenges them.

The Bikers role would be to get into a position of best opportunity for when the Lesser Daemons and Raptors are ready to enter play. With their Icon of Nurgle, a total of toughness 6 and with turbo-boosters, they should be able to survive long enough to pull it off.

=HQ= 4

KHARN

Daemon Prince
DoomBolt


Sorcerer Lord
Mark of Tzeentch
Familiar
Personal Icon
DoomBolt
Bolt of Change
Gift of Chaos
Terminator Armor
Combi-Melta


Lord
Jump Pack
Daemon Weapon
Personal Icon


=ELITE= 3

Chosen Chaos Space Marines x9
Aspiring Champion
Power Weapon x2
Pair of Lightning Claws
Flamer
Icon of Chaos Glory


Posessed Marines x5x2

=TROOPS= 6

Thousand Sons Marines x8
Aspiring Sorcerer
Bolt of Change


Khorne Berserker Marines x16
Skull Champion
Power Weapon
Plasma Pistol x3


Chaos Space Marines x5
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Flamer


Chaos Space Marines x5
Aspiring Champion
Power Weapon
Plasma Pistol
Flamer


Chaos Space Marines x5
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Twin Linked Bolter
Plasma Gun


Chaos Space Marines x5
Aspiring Champion
Plasma Pistol
Plasma Gun


Summoned Lesser Daemons x8

=FAST ATTACK= 3

Chaos Spawn x3

Chaos Bikers x3
Aspiring Champion
Power Weapon
Plasma Gun
Icon of Nurgle


Chaos Raptors x10
Aspiring Champion
Plasma Pistol
Flamer x2


=HEAVY=

Chaos Havocs x11
Aspiring Champion
Power Weapon
Twin Linked Bolter
Missile Launcher x2
LasCannon
Heavy Bolter


3300~

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Flavor and Tactics: Considerably similar to the previous list, but with an equal amount of consideration towards lack of cheese (more true to what I am aiming for, not just spending points for the heck of it)

1850 Force:

=HQ=

Sorcerer Lord
Mark of Tzeentch
DoomBolt
Bolt of Change
Terminator Armor

Daemon Prince
DoomBolt

=ELITE=

2 squads of 5 Posessed

Chosen Chaos Space Marines x10
Aspiring Champion
Power Weapon x2
Pair of Lightning Claws
Flamer
Icon of Chaos Glory
Melta Bombs

=TROOP=

Thousand Sons Marines x8
Aspiring Sorcerer
Bolt of Change


Khorne Berserker Marines x15
Skull Champion
Power Weapon
Melta Bombs

=FAST ATTACK=

Spawn x3

=HEAVY SUPPORT=

Chaos Havocs x12
Aspiring Champion
Twin Linked Bolter
Missile Launcher x2
LasCannon
Heavy Bolter

[Tommy]

I think that the daemon prince might needs some niftyer powers, warptime is always good, and winds of chaos is amazing, also you might struggle in kill point missions as 3 spawn are an easy couple kills, same with the small units of possesed, also land raiders might be a problem as you dont have any meltas (bar melta bombs which without warptime are pretty unreliable) I can tell you from experiance that nothing is more frustratig then a landraider sitting on an objective... i would either suggest a small unit of termicides with meltas to pop in and destroy it or a couple oblits for the multi-melta goodness

[danydaigle24]

I agree with Tommy you had nothing against heavy vehicule even normal vehicule you dont have that much... I think you would have a lot of difficulties against for example Guard or Space marine army with Land raider... I think Oblitarator is a good choice... Also do you have any transport for your troops because I dont think you can win a game against good army if you dont have any mobility...

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Well, for the anti-mech, simply tossing melta-bombs all-round (especially units that deep strike or flank) The Bolt of Change, while not 100% reliable, is still something. Also, getting into melee is something this army is geared towards, so even the squads of 5 have a chance against light vehicles that are unlucky enough to get close enough. The Lightning Claws, combined with some good ol' flanking, doesn't hurt. Deep striking those Raptors helps. Especially with the Lord Wielding a Deamon weapon. The Spawn, if they get lucky, have D6 Str 5 attacks, each. The Posessed -can- be put into one big squad, true, but with 2 squads of 5, I get 2 roles on the Daemon Kin. Which also gives me the possibility of two flanking squads, 3 if you count the Chosen. Sure, I don't start with them on the table, which puts me in a vulnerable spot. Especially if I Deep Strike the Raptors. But, that takes care of 'trasports' for 4 of my 5 major melee squads. The Berserkers rely on numbers and distractions a fair bit and Spawn have 3 wounds and serve well as said distraction. May be a lot of Kill points, but my Berserkers cost -way- more. Either of them makes it into CC, though...

I may not be fielding any mech (the bikes would only ever be used in the full list), but I can still deal with enough to enjoy the game Skulls and Blood for their respective Gods are the same, no matter the source! I'm also going for a "Boots on the Table" army. You do not see enough of them these days.

I re-read about the powers and will definitely be switching to Wind of Chaos. Thank you for the heads up.

Aside from the Sorc Lord, I am actually trying to avoid having termies in the army. The Thousand Sons have their 4+ Invul, with the Sorcs backing them up, so I feel they replace that role.

The Havocs still do a good job of threatening heavy vehicles and are relatively mobile. The filling out of the squad will certainly help deter Assaults and decrease the chance of the heavier weapons being taken out. A full squad of 20 sitting on an Objective would be pretty tough to move, aside from a good ol' tank shock.

I'm still waiting for the opportunity to field the full force.