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Post by LizardTau on Sept 23, 2011 9:02:45 GMT -5
Well since I use inquisitional warbands my list are lacking in shooting. so i had the idea of taking 3 warrior acolytes since they are really cheap and throw them into a razorback with TL Las. have three units of them you have 3 tl las firing a turn behind your advancing combat force. Now each units does cost with the acolytes and the razor back 92 points.
what do people think is it worth it to take pretty much a razor back for 92 points to get some fire support or is it a waste?
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Post by calitom on Sept 23, 2011 11:46:08 GMT -5
I'd rather pay 150 points for a 5 man Grey Knight Strike Squad with a Psycannon in a Rhino. Better, more consistant firepower in the psycannon.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Sept 23, 2011 14:41:44 GMT -5
yep agreed... the grey knight shooting is pretty awesome....
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Post by BewareOfTom on Sept 23, 2011 16:52:00 GMT -5
spam time! ;D:
corteaz
2x venpsyrifleman
purifiers - 6x, 5x halberd, 1x hammer
4x warband - 3 acolyte with bolters, razorback psyassault cannon
2x warband - 3 acolyte with bolters, razorback LC and TL PG
storm raven - TL PC, TL MM
3x psyrifleman dreads
1849/1850
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Post by LizardTau on Sept 23, 2011 19:00:54 GMT -5
im not sure your trading up one tl s9 shot at 48 " for 2 st 7 shots and 4 st 4 shots at 24", now i would say the strike squad is better on a whole since it is a lot better in combat and if the rhino blows up your not done for as you would be with a warriors ( since a las pistol and chain sword would do almost nothing for 3 st 3 bs 3 guys). But for an inquisitional player who has a lot of get up into the ememies face warbands with some assassins and crusaders and their elite(techmarines and vindicare assassin) and heavy slots(dreadnought and dreadknight) filled i think it might be an ok option i might have to try it out with some proxies some time
and wow thats a very shooty grey knights list Tom, lol untill i saw the strom raven i thought the purifiers would stand in front of the razorbacks to keep them from getting assulted lol
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Post by LizardTau on Sept 23, 2011 19:27:12 GMT -5
i was thinking
Hq
Coteaz
Librarian warding staff, might of titan, quicksilver and shrouding
Elite
Techmarine, warding staff, blind grenades and psychotroke grenades
Vindicare assassin
Troops
2 x 4 crusaders and 5 assassins in a rhino (one with coteaz and anouther with the techmarine)
10 crusader in a chimera ( with librarian)
3 x 3 warrior accolytes in razorbacks with tl las cannons
Heavy
2 x dreads with 2 autocannons with psybolt
dreadknight with heavy incinerator
1841/1850
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Post by calitom on Sept 24, 2011 2:32:44 GMT -5
If you're deadset on the Pleb-backs, then go with Psybolt assault cannons. Better in every way to the TL Lascannon as penetrating all armor values, and has more shots. Instead of an effective 54'' range, you're looking at an effective 30'' range on the Psyassault cannons. In an army based almost entirely around the 24'' range game, you want to maximize your effect in this zone rather then trying to compensate for ranges outside of your zone of control.
The reason why Grey Knights are considered to be so good ATM is because they dominate the mid-field, which no other army really seemed to do quite to this extent and it's frightening because most of the game is dealt within 24'', with usually only specific models / units and turn 1 maybe sometimes turn 2 taking place over 24'' away.
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Post by LizardTau on Sept 24, 2011 4:48:25 GMT -5
oh im not set on anything. i was just thinking it works well with the concept of my army and gives them some much needed shooting
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Post by calitom on Sept 24, 2011 4:52:55 GMT -5
The riflemen should be sufficient for 48'' shooting, but up to you of course. Your army.  And yes, Thomas' army example is very shooty - but doesn't even have numbers going for it as would an appropriately made guard list. If someone got in your face and popped your razorbacks you'd fold instantly. =\ |
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Post by LizardTau on Sept 24, 2011 5:33:46 GMT -5
i fully believe that the stikesquads are a better choise then the warbands but i want my army to be different
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Sept 24, 2011 7:27:42 GMT -5
Ah, well if it's cool theme then that's totally different!
a couple razorbacks should be some fine support then....
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 2, 2011 13:54:42 GMT -5
ok for about 20 points ish more i can take two monkeys and an accolyte in a rhino. Ill have have to check whats better, but im thinking the razorbacks might be a but better then the monkeys but ill test each
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Post by calitom on Oct 2, 2011 22:59:33 GMT -5
Twin linked is better then non twin linked lascannons. Everytime.
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Post by LizardTau on Oct 3, 2011 8:36:28 GMT -5
thats true and would also be trading the bs 4 tl for bs 3 so.. the only thing that i thought might be better is the fact they could use multi metla and heavy flamers if need be but i should keep them as cheap as possable since the main focus of the army is the CC warbands
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