Grey knight questions

[LizardTau]

For grand strategy it lets you make d3 units as troops. Now its that before or after you combat squad like if i have a unit of 10 intercepters can make the whole unit troops and then combat squad them?

[Jack Shrapnel]

I believe combat squad is declared at deployment of units... so no, you couldn't get six extra troop choices that way.....

[BewareOfTom]

grand strategy = start of game, before deployment

combat squads = when unit is deployed

[Jack Shrapnel]

Well then I guess you'd have to choose which of the two combat squads is troops then, because grand strategy only lets you have D3 extra as troops... not D3 x2

[redshirt2375]

The Grand Strategy says they can claim objectives as if they were troops, not they they count as a Troops choice so it has no effect on the FOC of the army, just changing the unit from non-scoring to scoring. And when you combat squad, you don't split special rules (ie: If the unit has Fearless, only 1 squad is allowed to be Fearless). So since they are counted as a scoring unit before the split, then there is nothing that says that they stop being scoring, or only 1 5-man squad would stay scoring if you combat squad.

The only wording in either rule that could cause an issue is that under Combat Squads it says the 2 combat squads count as 2 separate units for all game purposes once you split them. But I believe that was there to stop people from splitting the unit and then joining it back together later in the game (since a unit can't join another unit).

Now I will remind everyone that this book was written by Matt Ward, so if it could make the army more powerful then that is likely the way it works.

[calitom]

In the sake of say a banner or an apothecary, combat squadding would matter.

But in the sake of a rule given to the squad, combat squadding does not effect this (Looking at each marine codex written by matt ward, there is an example of each.) Red Thirst, Sicarius and Grand Strategy.

[LizardTau]

Hey guys i know there is a little debate that i started and i thought i would check the faq even tho i didnt think i saw it there, the question was answered on the first page last question

Q: If a unit is the target of Unyielding Anvil, from the
Grand Strategy special rule, and it splits into combat
squads, can both combat squads claim objectives? (p22)
A: Yes.

[redshirt2375]

Then that confirms it

[Jack Shrapnel]

yep, that's pretty clear