Rules Query (Tau Multitracker)

[shasodnarb]

Must a basic Tau Crisis suit equip a multitracker in order to use a twin-linked weapon?

(1) From the Tau codex, a suit must take 3 weapon and/or support systems, in any combination.

(2) Also from the codex, a twin-linked weapon counts as two weapon systems.

(3) Finally, again from the codex, a multitracker allows the suit to fire two weapon systems.

Therefore, if I understand correctly, for example, a legal suit configuration with a twin-linked weapon requires the 2 weapon systems to be (for example) 2 missile pods, and that these 2 missile pods fire as a single twin-linked weapon but require a multitracker to function as such.

[Tommy]

well not really you can fire a twin-linked weapon without a multitracker, or else certain armies having twin linked bolters for commanders would be pretty pointless. a twin linked weapon just gives them a re-roll i belive and you could have a twin linked missile pod without needing the multitracker.. (99.9% sure)

[shasodnarb]

My only concern is the wording in the Tau Codex, using the terms "weapon system" and "weapon" differently... and more specifically, looking at (2) and (3) above, I'm still not entirely sure.

Certainly, I agree that the BRB would allow a suit to fire two missile pods as a single twin-linked weapon. However, I'm still not sure that the Tau Codex lets me do that unless I have a multitracker.

On a related note, since a twin-linked weapon for Tau suits consists of two weapon systems, and a multitracker only allows a suit to fire two weapon systems, then it would similarly seem to me that Broadsides can't fire both its twin-linked railgun and twin-linked plasma rifle, whether it has a multitracker or not.

[Tommy]

juging by people lists on the net i would say you can fire twin-linked without a multitracker, and two twin-linked weapons with one, i mean deathrains would be useless right?.....(Targetting Array, TL- Missile Pods)

[Mythweaver]

My understanding of the rules, as written for the Tau, state that the Multi Tracker is required in order to use twin-linked weapon systems.

[donimator]

I would say twin-linked weapons do not require a multi-tracker.

per Tau Codex
...the second [point value] is for two weapons (counting as a twin-linked weapon of that type.)

per 5th edition rules - 'Twin-Linked'
A set of twin-linked weapons count as a single weapon of that type...

The Codex is just saying a twin-linked weapon takes up two available weapon system slots on a battlesuit, not that it counts as two separate weapon systems.

This is definitely the way it has been played in 4th and 5th editions.

[Tommy]

Yeah thats the way i see it as well, and it may just be an edition clash for 4th and 5th but im almost certain its played as donimator put it

[shasodnarb]

Ok, cool. Sounds good to me then.

Is there a similar consensus regarding a Broadside - if it has a multitracker - firing both its twin-linked railgun and twin-linked plasma rifle?

[Tommy]

i'd say yeah as long as its on the same target, because in the BRB its states thier one weapon..

[Mythweaver]

If that's the case, I'm not going to finish building D'Narb's Broadsides. Ha Ha

[shasodnarb]

If that's the case, I'm not going to finish building D'Narb's Broadsides

Nah, go ahead and finish them; mine will retain the basic loadout, regardless.

[Tommy]

Yeah i never get to use thier secondary system, usually whatever thier shooting at is either dead from a twin-linked railgun to the face, or is a landraider so the missile pods, and plasma rounds bounce cassually off the side of its armour...

[shasodnarb]

I apologize for resurrecting this thread but I'm still curious what would be ruled in a tournament, Matt... does a twin-linked weapon count as one weapon system?

I ask because I'm actually interested in the ruling's implication: if it does, then I could equip a hardwired multitracker and fire a twin-linked weapon along with a normal weapon.

[voodoo]

A twin linked weapon counts as a single weapon and here's why...

Abbadon strides into battle, the epitome of Chaos Undivided, per his weapon readout, he is armed with a twin linked bolter, which counts as one weapon, or, as a character, he would only be able to use one weapon in the shooting phase thus not allowing him to fire his only ranged weapon.

It only makes sense that twin linked weapons count as a single weapon, it's just an OPTION to have them as twin linked in order to help prevent misses.

P.S. I'm A Matt, but I'm thinking not the one you were referring to.

[redshirt2375]

twin-linked weapons have always been treated as 1 weapon since all twin-linked gets you is a re-roll on hits. A twin-linked weapon can still only inflict 1 wound on a model or damage result on a vehicle