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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jul 11, 2012 20:07:30 GMT -5
Yeah, On the Dakka-Raven I would take whatever the heavy bolter swaps out for (MM or LasCannon, can't remember) so you have something to paste an enemy flyer with. (Mind you, the Missiles + Assault Cannon are probably very good against flyers still... hmm...)
Also, I'm not a Fan of Dreadknights, but I can see the endless conversion coolness you could do with it, so I know why you took it.
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Post by LizardTau on Jul 11, 2012 22:09:16 GMT -5
A lass ray grey knight mind strike missiles aren't as good as blood angel blood strike missiles against vehicles. Mind strike arent str 8 ap 1
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jul 15, 2012 7:52:38 GMT -5
Derp, I forgot them grey knights bring those special missiles.
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Post by LizardTau on Jul 15, 2012 8:26:38 GMT -5
yeah i forget that all the time remember when i thought i insta killed eldrad caust we thought they were str 8 lol
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Post by calitom on Jul 16, 2012 11:24:26 GMT -5
Insta killing Eldrad on purpose is never an oops. It's karma coming back to bite his shiny elvish ass.
Also, new iteration :
Coteaz (Divination) Grand master with Psycannon, Blind Grenades and Meltabombs
Elite 10 Paladins, Apothecary, 4 Psycannons, Psybolt ammo, 5 Hammers, 4 Halberds and a Bro Banner
Troops 6 DCA in a Razorback with TL-HB with psybolt ammo 10 Man GK Strike squad with 2 psycannons, Hammer and psybolt ammo 10 Man GK Strike squad with 2 psycannons, Hammer and psybolt ammo 10 Man GK Strike squad with 2 psycannons, Hammer and psybolt ammo
Heavy support Rifleman dread with psybolt ammo Rifleman dread with psybolt ammo
Less psychic reliance, more guns... Was originally going with a vanilla inquisitor in terminator armor, but Coteaz winds up costing less and he does so much more.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jul 16, 2012 11:52:25 GMT -5
While I like the direction the list is evolving, the DCA in the Bolterback stick out to me as 2 free KP. While 5/6 missions KP don't matter, I could see that unit costing your things like an easy first blood.
I agree with you that coteaz is cheap and good. The reason he's so cheap stems from the fact that you can't customize him, GK are infamous for paying the "I Gear how I want" tax.
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Post by calitom on Jul 16, 2012 11:58:10 GMT -5
Yeah definitely, though that 140-145 points is only really spent otherwise in a Vindicare assassin, which cover being as it is a 4+ doesn't really seem to do much for him most of the time so I'd see him just falling over.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jul 16, 2012 12:05:32 GMT -5
Yeah, Mr Vindicare has both positives and negatives with the new edition, but he does have the added side effect of being able to instantly stop a land raider, where as you'd probably need to dedicate an entire turns worth of psycannon/psyfle firepower to stop one otherwise. Losing the 4th scoring unit isn't an issue as I assume you took the GM to make the pallies score.
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Post by BewareOfTom on Jul 16, 2012 13:32:46 GMT -5
yeah but killing that raider requires good dice rolls XD, or atleast above average (I think turbopen average is a 14, 2 3's and 2 4's)
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Post by calitom on Jul 16, 2012 17:41:02 GMT -5
yeah but killing that raider requires good dice rolls XD, or atleast above average (I think turbopen average is a 14, 2 3's and 2 4's) Average on 4 dice is 13... plus the STR of 3 of the rifle means you're on average getting a 16 to penetrate. Yeah, he's good against land raiders but if I'm not going first he may just get gibbed and there's wasted points.
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Post by BewareOfTom on Jul 16, 2012 18:51:51 GMT -5
I though you never added the str value for turbopen?
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Post by LizardTau on Jul 16, 2012 19:26:51 GMT -5
well in the grey knight book it has an x but says sniper which are str 3
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Post by BewareOfTom on Jul 16, 2012 19:33:32 GMT -5
hmm.... I think it was just bad wording from someone lol XD
EDIT: and I thought average of a d6 was 3-4 equally cause their the middle numbers?
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Post by LizardTau on Jul 16, 2012 19:37:14 GMT -5
there is no average on a d6 cause there is equal chance of getting each result, its just the average on 2d6 is 7 because there are more numbers that add up to seven then the others. what your thinking of is the median in math term which is the middle number
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Post by BewareOfTom on Jul 16, 2012 19:46:34 GMT -5
darn dem math learnens XD
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