6th ed mostly footslogging GK

[calitom]

2k points

HQ
Coteaz (Divination from BRB)
Librarian (Mastery 3, Divination from BRB)

Elite
Vindicare Assassin

Troops
6 Deathcult assassins (Power sword and a Power Axe on each) in Razorback with Psybolt ammo HB
6 Deathcult assassins (Power sword and a Power Axe on each) in Razorback with Psybolt ammo HB
10 man GK Strike Squad with Psybolt ammo, 2 Psycannons and a DH on Srgt
10 man Gk Strike Squad with Psybolt ammo, 2 Psycannons and a DH on Srgt
10 Terminators with Psybolt ammo, 2 Psycannons, 4 Halberds, 5 Hammers and a Banner

Heavy support
Rifleman Dread with Psybolt ammo
Rifleman Dread with Psybolt ammo


Pretty straight forward as far as how it plays, the DC flank around to try to get at meaty bits or to help deal with Terminators and the like (The power axes will really help here.), HQ choices will join the Terminator block and lead the front, using the Terminators to screen the Strike Squads. Dreadnoughts shoot stuff in the face and trundle around.

Overall it's a lot closer to how the GK would operate in the fluff, rather then thousands of Purifiers and Paladins in vehicles or what not punching the galaxy in the juevos... Plus I'll be able to convert a lot of stuff up to possibly make it all corrupted looking and have Coteaz be a converted counts-as Renegade Inquisitor, DCA would be Murder Servitors, the Power armor guys would likely be converted up to look more like they've fallen to Slaanesh and Khorne worship, Terminators to Nurgle (The super sweet Nurgle terminator conversion kits from Forgeworld would be used and I'd greenstuff up the halberds and hammers to make them look like they're diseased and oozy...) and it'd also let me try out a Dreadknight as some point which I'm going to convert up to look more like a Defiler as I'm converting one up for my Chaos anyways as I dislike the current Defiler model.

[Jack Shrapnel]

Looks solid, but not abusive... will be interesting to see how grey knights balance out with all the changes in 6th....

[BewareOfTom]

wouldnt you lose the +1 attack for 2 different power weapons?

[LizardTau]

I don't have my book on me but i think u get the extra attack as long as u have two specialty weapons now

[calitom]

Jul 4, 2012 7:46:53 GMT -5 BewareOfTom said:

wouldnt you lose the +1 attack for 2 different power weapons?

You would not as a power weapon is a power weapon is a power weapon. Mace / sword / axe just changes the stats of said power weapon, but it's still the same thing rules-wise.

[BewareOfTom]

huh, thats awesome

might give my crusaders power mauls and deathcults made like yours

[danydaigle24]

I have a question since I dont have the rulebook yet is force weapon still one shoot nids monstruous creature or they change force weapon rules...

[calitom]

Force weapons still cause instant death when activated, yes.

[Jack Shrapnel]

...however as GK are only mastery level 1, they can choose to hammerhand OR activate force weapons... so gives the nids a bit of a break...

I think the smart version would be hammerhand to be honest... more wounds would get through only needing a 4+ to wound, negating armor as they're AP3, so a squad is still very likely to kill a MC without too much hassle rather than relying on the lucky 6....

[danydaigle24]

Ok Thanks... But they still have their crazy banner... Anyways we will see.. Im sure there is some nice stuff for Nids...

[calitom]

Jul 4, 2012 23:47:33 GMT -5 danydaigle24 said:

Ok Thanks... But they still have their crazy banner... Anyways we will see.. Im sure there is some nice stuff for Nids...

Oh there is, the edition didn't change the fact that each army has a bad matchup or two, it did however go a LONG way towards balancing nids as a whole. The properly built Dark Eldar or Grey Knight list will still be incredibly difficult to overcome for Nids, however.

[calitom]

Been tinkering with more list ideas and more neat models to convert up for the renegade GK contingent - Here's another idea

HQ
Librarian Mastery 3
Coteaz

Troops
6 Acolytes in a Razorback with Psybolt HB
6 Deathcult Assassins in a Razorback with Psybolt HB
6 Deathcult Assassins in a Razorback with Psybolt HB
10 man GK Strike Squad with 2 Psycannons, DH and Psybolt ammo
10 Terminators with 2 Psycannons, 5 Hammers, 4 Halberds and a Banner

Fast attack
Stormraven with TL-HB, TL-ASC, Hurricane sponsons and Psybolt ammo (And a Searchlight)

Heavy support
Rifleman Dreadnought with Psybolt ammo
Dreadknight with Heavy Incinerator and Heavy Psycannon


The thoughts behind the change is that I have a Stormraven, so I may as well convert it up... plus I have some super cool ideas for it. The renegade acolytes are already built and have some super cool FW models so I really want an excuse to use some of those and the rest is pretty much the same, including my soon to be converted Dreadknight Defiler that if I wind up making it the way I have it pictured in my head it'll be a cool addition to the army.

Leaving the Stormraven kitted up as is will provide a huge Anti Infantry weapons platform that can also handle most other flyers seeing as 3 TL STR 6 shots, 4 TL STR 7 rending shots and 12 TL STR 5 shots should be able to smack some hullpoints off of flyers and bring them down.

[BewareOfTom]

only thing im really iffy on if the 5 hammers, but then again 2+ saves are amazing now XD

[calitom]

Jul 11, 2012 16:54:15 GMT -5 BewareOfTom said:

only thing im really iffy on if the 5 hammers, but then again 2+ saves are amazing now XD

Yeah, I have the hammers so I also have something to handle 2+ Saves in that Terminator unit.

[BewareOfTom]

well what I was thinking is possible swapping values (5 hals/4 hams) but I think thats coming down to personal preference lol XD

too bad QS doesnt make hammer strike at I10 XD

EDIT: and I do not think a psyraven is worth it, I mean, I'd totally do it is psyammo was 5, heck even 10 or 15, but 20 is too much to me when a MM is free