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Post by canadianguy on Jul 18, 2012 21:47:05 GMT -5
Ok 2 more thoughts: Pentinent engines- ever going to get used?
If I switched out the one dominion squad with f n hf and one rhino from a basic SOB squad to give seraphim for celestin and pump fOot SOB up and gave them f n hf Would that be a bit more flexible? Lose a TLmm immolator n dom squad n rhino Gain prot for celestine still some anti tank and bigger objective sitting squad
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 19, 2012 8:32:38 GMT -5
Penitent engines - no one ever took them because they were so easy to blow up before... now bolters can take away their hull points and blow them up even easier... rage gives a handy +2 attacks now, but there is no way these things will ever cross the board...
compare to a killa-kan (which is less than half the price of a penitent engine): same AV but the kan has the ability to get a KFF save and gets three gun options and the engine is open topped which even makes it less survivable... for double the points... and no utility outside of combat range (given it's only shooting attack is a flamer)...
I've seen them used (at Astro) before, and they were pretty terrible...but I don't see any logical reason to field them now... pity as the model is fantastic....
I haven't had alot of luck with seraphim (one of the only things in my SOB army that hasn't earned a paint job yet... lol...) and Celestine is pretty survivable just on her own... she basically should be charging turn two anyways... but any way of getting her there is very useful... even foot sisters for ablative wounds for turn one (you'll lose 6" of movement however) are a cheaper option, and have more numbers, better shooting, and are a scoring unit to boot!
Dominions are a great choice in the list currently... and a way to incorporate a form of alpha strike that can really increase your mobility... now against an infantry list... well not so great...
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Post by nekekami on Jul 19, 2012 10:59:36 GMT -5
Penitent Engines = Allied Furioso/Ironclad dreads. Do it.
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Post by BewareOfTom on Jul 19, 2012 11:41:31 GMT -5
blood talons for everybody
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Post by canadianguy on Jul 19, 2012 18:01:59 GMT -5
Is anyone going to care that I use redemptionist with eviserators as my DCAs
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Post by BewareOfTom on Jul 19, 2012 18:31:13 GMT -5
seems okay to me, faith as powerful as power armour XD could take one squad of 10 in a pod (with reclusiarch as the mistress gal) and 2 DC dreads in pods
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 19, 2012 21:39:43 GMT -5
I doubt anyone would care if you used them as stand ins... they are great models....
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Post by canadianguy on Jul 25, 2012 17:34:24 GMT -5
So core of my army will always be the followoing:
HQ: St Celestine with seraphim how many and weapon assortment? Uriah crusaders n DCA in rhino.
Troops: 3 x 10 double flamers in rhinos
Fast attack Seraphim 5 to 10 unsure of weapons Dominion 2 mg in TL MM immolator
Heavy 2 exorcist
I have the following options Another exorcist, or retrubutor squad w 4 of any hvy choice. Another dominion squad with meltaguns. I could do a repentia squad but unsure of its usefulness. I have extra rhinos and immolators
Only thing I would consider is purchasing a repressor for max dominion w 4 mg or retributor squad w 4 hvy weapons.
Thoughts?
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Post by canadianguy on Jul 25, 2012 17:51:04 GMT -5
Ooops Would also consider buying an aegis defence line.
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Post by canadianguy on Jul 26, 2012 13:31:52 GMT -5
Thinking of quad autocannon gun
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 26, 2012 13:54:07 GMT -5
you'd probably really benefit from the Aegis defense and quad gun, given if you come up against flyers you really don't have much defense to it...
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Post by canadianguy on Jul 26, 2012 14:16:36 GMT -5
Only anti flyer thought I had, remember I don't want allies.
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Post by LizardTau on Jul 26, 2012 14:32:30 GMT -5
aegis defence and qaud gun is great, I use it for my tau and i like it. very versitile long range and good str and can fire at flyers, land or from reserve.
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Post by canadianguy on Jul 26, 2012 14:42:34 GMT -5
No thoughts about a repressor w 4 heavies or full dominion w 4 mg?
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Post by canadianguy on Jul 28, 2012 21:55:58 GMT -5
Can someone pm me cost of aegis w quad gun. With the inability to assault out of a rhino crusader DCA ratio still thinking 3 DCA to 1 crusader
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