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Post by danydaigle24 on Jul 28, 2012 13:53:43 GMT -5
Ok guys so I tried to make up a list that will be Iron Hands fluff and still competitive wich is really hard.... Let me know what you guys think and if its fluff.. Vaylund is a beast master of the forge that gives FNP to devastator... My plan is to stick both techmarine with tactical near the devastator to protect them from CC...Furioso with blood talons in Gunship... Captain with Assault... Rapier gun is TL Lascannon Ordonnance artillery piece...
Captain
PF
JP
Combi Flamer
Furioso Blood Talon
10 Man Assault
2 Melta Gun
PF
10 Scout Camo Cloak
Heavy
Gunship
MM
Lascannon
Devastator X 9
4 ML
Devastator X 9
4 Plasma Cannon
Allied
Master of the Forge Vaylund
Elite
Techmarine/Servo/PW
Troops
10 Marine
PF
ML
Combi Plasma
Plasma Gun
3 Rapier gun
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Post by calitom on Jul 29, 2012 21:16:02 GMT -5
I honestly don't really see much of a reason to ally with this sort of list.... personally I would think you'd be better off just running purely vanilla codex for many reasons :
Tank hunter on everything is huge for Vaylund as Chapter Tactics, so you want to get as many squads to take advantage of it as possible. Cheaper troops in general in the vanilla codex and a cheaper flyer in their fast attack slot makes it a more solid codex in general then the BA codex nowadays in 6th edition. The only thing Blood Angels has going for it is cheap Devestator squads, but you can't give them FNP with Vaylund because his chapter tactics are vanilla codex only.
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Post by nekekami on Jul 29, 2012 22:09:08 GMT -5
The only thing Blood Angels has going for it is cheap Devestator squads, but you can't give them FNP with Vaylund because his chapter tactics are vanilla codex only. Just in case that got lost in there. It's like they counted on shit like this cropping up and nixed it before it became an issue. |
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Post by danydaigle24 on Jul 30, 2012 4:12:03 GMT -5
they did FAQ that or what cuz I didnt see that its vanilla marine codex only same thing with Pedro didnt see it... Also Vaylund just give FNP to devastator he doesnt give tank hunter...
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Post by calitom on Jul 30, 2012 9:00:35 GMT -5
Vaylund's chapter tactics, being an IA characters is Tank Hunter to every Codex Space marine choice but Devestators in your army- the devestators get FNP. Blood Angels don't have Combat Tactics, so can never get benefit from vanilla codex buffs save Librarian powers.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Jul 30, 2012 11:55:43 GMT -5
ok what I read was chapter tactics fearless but I dont have the book I will get it in two weeks... but BA devastator still get FNP tough right?
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Post by calitom on Jul 30, 2012 14:59:04 GMT -5
Not from Vaylund, no as that is part of his chapter tactics package, and character rules from codex space marines can not effect selections from any other codex. Calgar doesn't let others choose morale results, no fleet from shrike, no twin linked from vulkan, etc. You need to use a priest to give your BA devestators FNP.
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Post by nekekami on Jul 30, 2012 18:41:14 GMT -5
TL:DR: No cheesy cherry picking with FW Space Marine characters and non-vanilla codexes.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Jul 30, 2012 19:30:16 GMT -5
Ok anyways I will have the book soon and can read it I dont thing that list is cheesy at all I dont even thing I will be able to win regularly with it I just try to do a theme Iron Hands list
EDIT: I download the book while Im waiting for the original and you are right its chapter tactic so yes I will use vanilla marine codex... The only thing I was right its about the fearless instead of TH....
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