Men with Puppies

[Frosty the Pirate]

So, BA have gotten hit by the nerf bat a little bit, and I'm not liking their new playstyle as much, so I've decided to give some other codices a shot.

This led me to settle on an attempt of an Ode to Russ.

2000 points - The Search for Russ - Space Wolves + Imperial Guard

Puppies:

Bjorn, the Fell Handed - Plasma Cannon - 270

Rune Priest - Chooser, Jaws, Living Lightning - 110

5x Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour - 3x Power Mauls, 2x Power Fists, 1 CML - 215

10x Grey Hunters - 2x Plasma Gun, Wolf Standard, Rhino with Dozer - 210

10x Grey Hunters - 2x Plasma Gun, Wolf Standard, Rhino with Dozer - 210

10x Grey Hunters - 2x Plasma Gun, Wolf Standard, Rhino with Dozer - 210

Men:

Company Command Squad - 4x Flamers, Chimera with ML/HF - 125

Infantry Platoon - 320
Platoon Command Squad - 4x Flamers, Chimera with ML/HF
30x Combined Infantry Squad - Commissar, 3x Autocannons

2x Leman Russ Siege Tanks - Demolisher Cannon, Heavy Flamer - 330

8 Vehicles, 30 MEQ and 40 GEQ Bodies, most of which score. Bjorn provides a leadership 10 bubble to help guardsmen recieve orders and get counter attack off on Grey Hunters. he hangs out in mid-backfield with the LRBT Sqaudron pounding units with templates and can deal with incoming threats to the blob holding home plate.

The Grey Hunters and Terminators are a rock hard midfield threat with lots of bodies, and firepower, 30 Grey Hunters shelling you with bolters and plasma hurts, no matter what you are!

Other Thoughts: The Grey hunters might be better off with Meltaguns as opposed to Plasma, not sure on this one. I might also swap one of the Mauls on the Termies to a Powerfist and drop the melta bombs on the blob sargents. If Bjorn ends up usually staying near the blob to confer his leadership, I may drop the commissar freeing up some points to grab an officer of the fleet for the CCS to delay flyers or other reserves. I could also turn the CCS into a plasma CCS for 40 points, but keeping them cheap and expendable is my goal.

Thoughts or Comments?

[calitom]

If you aren't taking advantage of the inherent bonuses of the space wolf units (aka, built in power axes, wolf standards and mark of the wolfen) I don't think you'll be able to hold mid field as well as you would like. These extra mentioned tools are the reason grey hunters are the most feared troop choice IMO.

[Jack Shrapnel]

not a fan of power mauls... but other than that the termies look solid, always liked Bjorn, and anything that helps guard leadership for orders is great synergy.

Why melta bombs in the squad though? if something gets through your spacewolves to hit the guard in combat where they would want to use melta bombs... something has gone terribly, terribly wrong I think... course it's only a few points so only a minor thing...

priest looks solid... I'm more partial to living lightning... but otherwise good...

grey hunters are quite solid... other than no wolf standards... those things are a must have.... surprising not to see long fangs in a space wolves list.... in a good way

[Frosty the Pirate]

Yeah I actually missed that, I took Wolf Standards on the GH, I'll fix that now.

I also didn't fully read LL before taking MH. Totally taking LL. Way awesomer.

The thought on the melta bombs was as a tank-shock deterrence, but your likely right, if something is assaulting the blob, I'm likely doing it wrong, or I'm intentionally using them as a meat shield.

[danydaigle24]

its a cool list but I dont see a lot of anti-tank... I know everyone is freaking out on infantry right now but soon people will start to build list with like double lanraider for example because everyone is going full anti-infantry atm...

[Frosty the Pirate]

If the meta shifts back to rock units (Nob Bikers, Paladins, Termies in Land Raiders) then I simply change the Leman Russ Battle Tanks to Leman Russ Siege Tanks, 2x Str 10 Ordnance Large Blasts will make Land Raiders think twice above advancing on the Disciples of Russ! I've been actually debating doing this anyways since it saves 10 points.

[Jack Shrapnel]

Don't think the meta here actually changed at all... I still see nob bikers, paladins and termies in land raiders since 6th hit.... don't believe the internet myths... no one got rid of their tanks!

[danydaigle24]

so my point is even better then

[calitom]

The big thing is that plasma is so good now. I'd honestly say plasma is better then everything else but melta in versatility atm. That being said, I don't think it's too light on anti vehicle. Maybe another dread or two for more anti land raider, but otherwise it's okay.

[Frosty the Pirate]

After the thought I had about Siege Tanks with Demolishers, the more I liked it. Rear AV 11, Str 10 AP2 at the expense of a few snap firing heavy bolters? Yes Please.

I could also use the (+10 for 2x Demos, +10 from dropping melta bombs) 20 points freed up to buy some power fists for the terminators as additional MC/walker, but I'd love to find the extra 10 points to make them chainfists.

I've updated the list above.

[trevor]

i would take melta guns in the CCS with 4 bs 4 shots comeing out of a chimera with the bring it down order... could mess up somones shit pritty good for 145 points. ;D

[Hizack]

That many Grey hunters with Plasma guns and Leman Russ Demo's looks nasty. I wouldn't wanta fight that.

[danydaigle24]

If you are there next Monday I would like to give a try to my IH against that list Ray

[Frosty the Pirate]

I'm certainly willing, I'll see if I can make it, but I wouldn't expect to get there before 7pm on Monday. I'll post in the thread for monday when I have a better idea if I can make it.

[danydaigle24]

ok good