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Post by danydaigle24 on Dec 12, 2012 8:45:44 GMT -5
www.3plusplus.net/2012/12/fallacy-40k-mass-troops-on-foot/^^^ This is the reason this list will never do well. Against any opponent with even a little bit of mobility and ability to block LOS, you will never be able to apply enough firepower to them. Combine this with all the new cover ignoring AP3, and 60 MEQs isn't as hard to deal with as you might think. I agree with this article. Rhino will defitnitly make your list better but you should go only 4 Tac squad ans support them. But the best way to find out is trying it  |
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Dec 12, 2012 8:56:43 GMT -5
I'd use devestators rather than development squads Jason  (don't you love auto-correct?) |
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Dec 12, 2012 9:15:13 GMT -5
What I mean is explained a little better in the article, In that 60 MEQs would be really hard to deal with in a balanced list. However 60 MEQs becomes much more manageable for your opponent if that's all you have.
BA players have all tried the 40 ASM + 15 Devs template by now, does it work? Yeah, sorta. Arguably thats only 55 MEQs, not 75. But FNP closes that gap quite a bit. And they have built in mobility where as foot sloggers do not.
I'm not trying to say this list can't be improved, but I'm saying the concept of "bring max scoring bodies" doesn't work without proper support, and with expensive bodies like marines, that support is much harder to get.
In a complete opposite example, one of the comments on that article talks about Ork Boyz, does bringing 180 boyz work? Yeah, sure it can. But does it give you anything more than bringing 90 or 120 boyz? Not really.
4 Tactical Squads is probably the upper limit I would ever consider viable, and honestly I'd even say 2-3 is probably more than enough if you bring some cheaper scoring (scouts) or some FOC swaps (Bikes as Troops with Bike Captain for example)
I agree that 6th edition is an edition in which spamming the same unit doesn't work. The ONLY exception to this rule so far is flamers and screamers, who are arguably benefiting greatly from a rule (EW) they will NOT have in a short while.
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Post by LizardTau on Dec 12, 2012 10:55:11 GMT -5
Yes i love autocorrect that's why i usually wait until i get home to respond lol
Sent from my GT-I9100M using proboards
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Post by canadianguy on Dec 12, 2012 14:45:59 GMT -5
Thoughts on HQ for this type of list looking like
4 tacts 3 rhino
2 dev squads ML
Bastion or aegis
HQ lookinng librarion
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Post by canadianguy on Dec 16, 2012 14:23:19 GMT -5
If I can split my tac squads into 5s I think this is how I might go:
HQ: most likely libby but very open
4 tact w pg n pc
2 min devis one all ml one all hb
Bastion
2 rhinos
2 razorbacks
Then pred, vindicator or whirlwinds.
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