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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 29, 2013 9:13:21 GMT -5
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 29, 2013 9:17:11 GMT -5
...oh and his second game he played double helldrake with an all biker list  |
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Post by danydaigle24 on Jan 29, 2013 9:40:03 GMT -5
so Matt no excuse for the tournament! haha...
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Post by thesanityassassin on Jan 29, 2013 10:08:48 GMT -5
Time to get me a Dark Angels codex so it seems!
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Post by thesanityassassin on Jan 29, 2013 10:12:30 GMT -5
That Salvo banner would be HUGE in my list. Plus I seem to want about 15 more bikes.....my poor money holder!
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Post by LizardTau on Jan 29, 2013 10:14:43 GMT -5
Do it u only live once. Well unless u believe in re incarnation then well u only live this life once lol
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 29, 2013 10:23:23 GMT -5
Take a look at what he faced tho. Several of those armies are static gunlines, with all that mobility I'm not surprised he rick-rolled them! +1 to 6th ed for Mobility as King! All Hail Mobility!
Not to de-value the results of that report, Reading the synopsis of some of those battles, it sounds like several of those players were not aware of the alpha strike potential of the bolter banner on bikes either.
I definitely think buying a DA codex is in your future Matt.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Jan 29, 2013 10:35:15 GMT -5
I dont have the codex what is it doing that banner?
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 29, 2013 10:44:40 GMT -5
The Banner makes all Bolters within 12" (I think) Salvo 2/4 Instead of Rapid Fire. Combined with Being Relentless on Bikes and Scout moves, means you can move 12" up before the game starts, move 12" on your turn, and then Salvo 4 Bolter your opponent Turn 1. With that many bikes that makes 160+ TL bolter shots on turn 1. Absolutely devastating alpha strike against any foot list.
However, If they don't get Turn 1, or you deploy with LOS blocking or use mechanized troops, you can hard-counter this 1 trick pony.
I still believe the bolter banner is good and can be used very well in a balanced list, but the alpha strike lists cropping up around the Net are just moronic imo.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Jan 29, 2013 10:53:04 GMT -5
thats good people will stop spaming infantry list only and winning about how rhino is useless...
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 29, 2013 11:07:28 GMT -5
Yup, Hold off shelving those rhinos and razorbacks gentlemen. Transports are... balanced.... WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jan 29, 2013 11:19:52 GMT -5
lol... yep... as I said in the helldrake thread, there's a number of changes/updates that are bringing the pendulum back to transports and mech being more prevalent again, the helldrake and resulting FAQ being the first... then the new DA banner...
just wait til the new daemon codex.... mark my words, don't get rid of your rhinos....!
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Post by thesanityassassin on Jan 29, 2013 12:40:21 GMT -5
Maybe I'll have to drop an assault squad to mount up the Vanilla Marines.....won't give me a full Company though...
Yeah, I totally wouldn't just copy that list, but with very minimal changes to what I run (dropping the Talon for a Libby on bike and switching my Command squad for Ravenwing, dropping a speeder or two for Knights) I think I'd be pretty happy with it. Gonna pick that book up sooner rather than later, though I'm pretty sure I'm just going to run Codex Bikers for the tourney because I've got them ready and I don't want to have to do up Sammael, a Libby and a couple extra squads.
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Post by LizardTau on Jan 29, 2013 13:31:09 GMT -5
Ya my chaos list has three rhinos and a landraider
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