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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 29, 2013 16:28:39 GMT -5
With all the Guard talk going around these days, I figured it was time to tip my hand. I've been thinking about building towards a full Guard army for some time.
Now, I've never played straight Guard before, and I will mention I've actually tried to take some choices I think are good, but not over the top in 6th.
Here's the list I'm think of building towards.
Company Command Squad: - Creed, 4x Sniper Rifles, Camo Cloaks
Lord Commissar - Power Axe
4x Ogryns
Infantry Platoon: Platoon Command Squad with 4x Flamers and Officer with Boltgun 3x Infantry Squads with Flamers, Krak Grenades and Power Axes 2x Heavy Weapons Squads with 3x Autocannons 30x Conscripts
Veteran Squad - 3x Plasma, Chimera with 2x Heavy Flamer and Dozer
Veteran Squad - 3x Plasma, Chimera with 2x Heavy Flamer and Dozer
Vendetta Gunship (PCS Inside)
Leman Russ Squadron: 2x Leman Russ Demolisher
Ordnance Battery: 2x Griffon Heavy Mortar
Aegis Defence Line (no gun)
Basically, the Lord Comissar uses his Aura to turn the Blob, Conscripts and Ogryns into an advancing wall of Infantry, with Creed using his massive command range to bark orders at them.
The infantry are supported in close by Plasma Vets and the Russes, and from afar by the Vendetta, Heavy Weapons teams and Griffons.
I hoping this isn't too rough, and I want to have some fun with less often used Guard units that I think are really strong this edition.
Give me your thoughts, and tell me what you think.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Jan 29, 2013 19:24:32 GMT -5
It's a cool list fit with your style... I'm more a fan of meltagun then plasma but I know you like S7
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Post by Hizack on Jan 29, 2013 20:05:17 GMT -5
I suppose, with this list you'll have to be relying heavily on the heavy weapons teams and the Vendetta against any flyers. Might run into some troubles in dealing with two dragons chomping down on your blob if the Vendetta doesn't come in, or is being a turd. (Mine were kinda turdy when I played Dany.)
Otherwise, it looks like you've got solid threat saturation, though you will have a lot of issues keeping your blob alive against a Tau gun-line. That 30" AP5 will be murder on those guardsmen.
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 30, 2013 9:43:24 GMT -5
See that's where using Move Move Move and Get Back in the Fight come in very handy. Going to ground in area terrain for a 3+ then acting normally in the next turn(except for movement) is a big difference maker. Plus, if those fire warriors are in the open. My Griffons will have a field day.
I don't really expect to be playing vs double dragon with this, I want this to be a list can I bring on weekends and have some fun, but still be a strong list.
The one thing I'm unsure on, is since I have a 3rd Heavy Slot open, is breaking up either the Russes or Griffons into separate units. or leaving them both as squadrons.
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Post by Hizack on Jan 30, 2013 17:36:34 GMT -5
Well, the Griffons are only small blasts are they not? I'm unable to check today, if they are you're probably better off splitting the Russ's in that case as they'd be more useful utility wise on the flanks with the Vet Chimeras, and giving a little more threat saturation.
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Post by danydaigle24 on Jan 30, 2013 18:20:31 GMT -5
griffon are large blast
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Post by Frosty the Pirate on Jan 30, 2013 19:14:22 GMT -5
Yeah, and Griffons also get to re-roll their scatter die where as russes can't, so the Griffons are accurate enough you can rely on them to land pretty much where you want, where as I usually lose 1 russ template.
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Post by LizardTau on Jan 30, 2013 19:17:16 GMT -5
Then this is if u have separate russes and the one hits u can fire the second at something else or if it misses u can fire it at the same one
Sent from my GT-I9100M using proboards
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Post by calitom on Jan 30, 2013 21:47:57 GMT -5
The aegis without a gun is a complete waste of points. Otherwise it looks passable, though I think the Ogryns are out of place as is Creed- too fragile and has to stay where he's at to do anything effective, which leaves your primary work horse for orders vulnerable.
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