seeker chariots vs. exalted chariots

[Jack Shrapnel]

thanks to dwarfs finding a new home, not only will I be able to finish off my final couple of khorne purchases, but can also start on what I need for my slaanesh...

so I already know I'm buying seekers... but the quandry for me comes with the heavy support slot...

I'm likely going to concentrate on chariots (because every time I build a daemon prince I like I go "for HOW MANY POINTS?"... yeah they're pricey beyond usefulness and my dex can't take a black mace!

So my thoughts are... seeker chariots only, or adding in exalted chariots...

heralds on chariots at first seem okay, but then you realize the best loci (beguilement) really doesn't help a chariot out at all... (and the others are even less appealing - going first already with impact hits and move through cover is little use) ....and the regular chariots can take the lesser gifts for AP2 attacks... and it's more expensive to buy a chariot as a herald mount than on its own

so here's my dilemma (after all that preamble!)

exalted chariots look cool. They have 4 HP, but are otherwise the same fragile AV11 open topped vehicle that the seekers are... for nearly double the price...

I'm guessing glancing to death will be the exception, not the norm... these guys are going to be making craters....

but they look freaking cool... not sure if they're that many points cool... (and double the $ by the way!)

So is it better to run:

185 points = 2 seeker chariots, 1 exalted chariot, 3 lesser gifts (AP2 for everyone!)

or just:

150 points = 3 seeker chariots, 3 lesser gifts (saves 35 points per cavalcade - and about $30 - but lose 2 HP)

if there's no appreciable difference, then might as well go the exalted route (rule of cool)... problem is most of the tacticas online are before the new dex, so people didn't use the exalted because of the giant deepstrike footprint... now that they can start on the board, that problem goes away....

these kits are big and cool... but also something I need to paint unassembled... and something once I buy (ie: the big exalted kit) I'd actually want to use!

if it's not worth it at all, I'll save the money and the points for sure!

anyone got any ideas?

[danydaigle24]

it depend on the rest of the list Shannon, I would suggest you build a list and try it before you buy the chariots because they are really expensive and lots of people think they are terrible...

Im sure there is something to do with chariots but requiered lots of playtesting...

I dont think you really need the AP2 with billions of rending all over the army so I would personnally go for option 2 but I have no experience with them so I might be wrong...

[Jack Shrapnel]

well I'm using chariots... that's already decided....

I'm playing daemons... lots of people think the entire book is terrible (with the exception of the obvious just ally with CSM)

I just don't know if the extra points and money is worth an exalted over a regular seeker.

(denying armor saves on a 5/6 on all the alluresses' attacks for ten points is a steal... it's like super rending! so the lesser gift will definitely stay)

[canadianguy]

They seem like glass hammers so if you want them to make combat what psychic options are out there to grant wards, fix hull points?

[Jack Shrapnel]

none....

they can take telepathy or slaanesh... and only if I put a herald in the unit... and buy that herald a chariot....

[danydaigle24]

its just because there is no obvious netlist yet that people thinks Daemon are terrible... most people dont spend time and energy on building list they just use what they see on the net or put all the best thing together and hoping they will crush everybody but you need a synergy beetween units...

Anyways Im sure we will both do very good next tournament with our Daemons and it would be amazing if we fight each other in final

[Khalai]

I'm definitely running a unit of 2 seeker chariots and an exalted seeker chariot, and very likely another unit of 3 seekers. I don't think it's worth it to run a herald on it though, and I'll be running my heralds in the daemonettes (Maybe one with the seeker cavalry, but haven't decided on that)

[Jack Shrapnel]

I'm actually considering two seeker chariots and an exalted.... plus a herald with swiftness for terrain protection and ap2..... 12d6 rending hammer of wrath followed by a bunch of ap2 attacks sounds pretty solid...

Times two units....

[Jack Shrapnel]

dammit... herald still counts on the 1-3 limit... still viable I think...

10D6 rending HOW followed by 12 AP2 attacks and with grace on the herald no worries about running through terrain... you know, if they don't just get blasted to pieces first... lol....

at least the squadron rules means the sacrificial seeker in front has to be destroyed before the hits go to the next one... although with AV11 open topped that should take like 2 minutes... lol....