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Post by harryf on May 11, 2013 16:30:36 GMT -5
IMO one of the coolest things in the codex if not THE coolest, so im trying to see if he can be valid in an army. currently just trying to get some facts together about it: -not survivable at all, absolutely NEED to stay in terrain to get a 3+ or 2+ cover -actrually quite poor in CC, with only 5+ save -weak shooting, if lucky can kill a rhino or two
uses -harass slow-moving CC units with slowing aura, examples: ork horde, lichguards, khorne berserkers, maybe bloodletters? -pick off weak infantry such as brodsides, or vehicles that are normally in the back like hammerheads -contesting -weaken psykers or other things using LD
in reality, he probably wont do much damage, however by posing a threat to things like broadsides, hammerheads, vindicators, and things like that he can serve to slow down assault armies or force shooty armies to turn back therefore giving MCs breathing room
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Stephen
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Post by Stephen on May 11, 2013 16:32:52 GMT -5
So what you said is he can't survive, can't shoot and doesn't do well in close combat. . . Sounds like you already answered your question of what he is good for.
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Post by harryf on May 11, 2013 16:51:44 GMT -5
sigh... he can contest and kill things, well, that cant fight back he does have a 12" slowing aura though
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on May 11, 2013 18:20:54 GMT -5
Well I'm not sure why you would think WS9 with four attacks at S9 is bad in combat... most things in the game hit him on 5's and he can also rend stuff out... where he shines? challenges... where he dies? hordes.. don't get him anywhere near a horde... he's for de-buffing, and with his precision strike deep striking, he should always be in cover, and no where near anything that could threaten him... flesh hooks aren't fantastic shooting, but slamming some S6 on rear armor will do something... just don't waste him on a rhino!
He's got a good save vs. shooting as long as he's in cover (which he will be) and his debuffing abilities are quite good...
is he the most competitive elite slot? no... wouldn't say so... but he's definitely better than lictors, pyrovores and venomthropes... so yeah, he's okay... just don't expect him to have the same kind of game impact that a unit of hive guard, zoans, or ymgarls will have...
plus if you use him wrong he will die...
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Post by harryf on May 11, 2013 18:51:56 GMT -5
thought he was S6... but yeah, he should be good for picking off devastators, tacticals, sisters, heavy weapon squads, and such...
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on May 11, 2013 20:23:18 GMT -5
mistake in what I wrote... the W was deleted... WS9....
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