Core Unit cost comparison

[Edg3ofR3ason]

Apparantly I was bored one afternoon or had been sitting out in the sun too long because I asked myself this question: "How do the different army core units stack up against each other given the wide range of point cost and equipment available to them under the new 8th edition rules?" Thesis project you say, well not quite and I'm sure that this will elicite lots of questions but I thought that the results were worth sharing.

I decided to give arbitary values based on the average in each category (i.e. the average WS for all units listed is 3, therefore any core unit with a WS=3 rated as 0, and if WS was less than 3 then -1 rating, and if greater than 3 then +1 rating).
I think that it is probably a fairly accurate reflection of 'the best bang for your buck' and if anyone wants to have a look at the actual spreadsheet data just let me know and I'll send it to you.

The highest 'positive point value' means that those core units are the most cost effective over the range of criteria used. Enjoy!

How the ratings were applied:
WS base 3 = 0; WS2=-1; WS4=+1, etc
BS base 3 = 0; BS2=-1; BS4=+1, etc
S base 3 = 0; S2=-1; S4=+1, etc
T base 3 = 0; T2=-1; T4=+1, etc
I base 2 = 0; I1=-1; I3=+1, etc
AS 6= 0; no armour=-1, 5=+1, 4=2+ etc
WS if access to ward save then +1

GW if access to great weapon save then +2: if GW costs extra then -0.5 per pt cost+B7: if GW at no cost then +1

Ld less than 7=-1, 7=0, greater than 7=+1

W = # of Wounds base 1 = 0; add +1 for each additional wound

base point less than 8=+2, 8=+1, greater than 8=-1
# of core units less than 4=-1, 4 or greater=+1
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The Rankings
Core Unit Pos. Pt value
WoC-Marauder 1.63
DE-warrior 1.50
Empire-Swordman 1.17
Skaven-Clanrats 1.00
Skaven slaves 1.00
Beast-Gor 1.00
Empire-Spearmen 0.80
O&G-Orcs 0.80
DE- BG 0.77
WoC-warrior 0.67
Dwarf - warrior 0.63
Beast-Ungor 0.60
HE-spearmen 0.56
DoC-Bloodletter 0.50
WE-Dryads 0.50
CD-warrior 0.50
WE-GG 0.42
LZD-Skinks 0.40
Bret-Menatarms 0.40
Dwarf - Quarreller 0.36
HE - Sea Guard 0.33
O&G-Goblins 0.33
LZD-Saurus 0.27
Bret-KnightErrant 0.25
Empire-Handgunners 0.25
Ogre-Irongut 0.19
Ogre-Bulls 0.09
DoC-Plaguebearer 0.08
VC-goule 0.00
TK - Heavy Horse -0.06
VC-warriors -0.13
TK - warrior -0.50
VC-zombie -1.50

[Jack Shrapnel]

Very interesting analysis... thanks for doing all this work....

really highlights some of the disparity between value troops as well... at least my ogres can say "At least we're not VC core!" ;D

and really fits with peoples' experience with the WOC maurader where it's just so good for the points (also the DE warrior)... I was somewhat surprised at how high the rats rated, but I guess their low point cost would defintely help there!

[thesanityassassin]

Very nice analysis, I'm happy to actually see something showing the disparity between core units in this Core heavy edition.

The one thing I would wonder about would be Special Rules though. I know things like the Citizen Levy rule (extra rank fighting) and of course Speed of Asuryan up the value of High Elf spears bring them a bit more in line with some of the "better" choices, though I still feel they're a point over priced.

[fritzthedwarf]

Great stuff! It is interesting to see what a difference in rating there is between marauders/ DE warriors and the rest. And how bad VC core units are compared to others. I agree with Matt that special rules of core units and army book rules that effect core units will shift the rating (but I have little idea about most armies so have no idea what that would do to the ratings).

[usscott]

see i told you all the zombie were a ton better than bloodletter now i got the # to prove it.very tho and thanks

[justice7ca]

This is very interesting.... working out the special rules for each unit/army would help bring these closer to accuracy.

Ultimately it would be amazing to have a list of "best bang for the point" list.

[fritzthedwarf]

Oh. I didn't see the zombie rating at the bottom. So VC do have a high rated core unit. Still, the VC players can point out what other problems zombies have that might not be taken into account by this rating.

[Jack Shrapnel]

....thats a MINUS 1.5 for the zombie.... they're just so.... terrible....

[thesanityassassin]

Haha. It's great that a 2 point model can be -1.5 points useful. But this new edition just sees them die in droves so massively.

[usscott]

oops will ok i was worg it skaven slave are a ton better than bl i glad i play both lol

[LizardTau]

Nice analysis the only thing that i can think of that its doesn't take account is that lizardmen get cold blooded so effectivly they have highter leadership then it shows