Skrolk's putrid host

[Jack Shrapnel]

Well since point levels are going up to 2.4K, and everyone knows that hordes, heavy magic with book lores, high initiative and BSB's are the best.... here's my themed skaven list... with none of that fancy 8th edition stuff that's good... it's defenseless heroes and short range unboostable magic for me! (initiative is for elf-things! ;D)

2400 Pts - Skaven Roster (what I'm considering for King-Con)

Lord Skrolk
1 Rod of Corruption
1 The Liber Bubonicus

The Mad Scientist (1#, 45 pts)
1 Doomrocket

The Harbringer of Pox (2#, 279 pts)
1 Plague Priest , flail
1 Plague Furnace
1 Dispel Scroll

The Harbringer of Decay (2#, 254 pts)
1 Plague Priest Flail;
1 Plague Furnace )

Devoted of Pox (30#, 235 pts)
29 Plague Monks (Musician Standard Bearer)
1 Bringer-of-the-Word

Devoted of Decay (30#, 285 pts)
29 Plague Monks (Musician Standard Bearer
1 Bringer-of-the-Word
1 Storm Banner

The Filth (20#, 40 pts)
20 Skavenslaves

The Wretched (20#, 40 pts)
20 Skavenslaves

Subjects of the Scientist (30#, 162 pts)
30 Clanrats (Spear; Shield)

The Mad Ones (5#, 80 pts)
5 Plague Censer Bearers

Contagion (20#, 70 pts)
18 Giant Rats
2 Packmaster

Contagion (20#, 70 pts)
18 Giant Rats
2 Packmaster

Contagion (20#, 70 pts)
18 Giant Rats
2 Packmaster

The Machine that goes Ping
Doomwheel

The Machine that goes Bleep Bleep
(Doomwheel)


Total Roster Cost: 2400

[usscott]

you was rigth on the doomwheel thay am be geting dropt form my list and you need same cannons

[Jack Shrapnel]

....yeah but I don't want to buy any between now and King-Con....! (but two would be pretty great in this list for some actual ranged threat)

[stonecutter]

Looks like a pretty cool list that is going to hurt my T3 armies - i.e. everything but lizzies. Since I am not playing lizzies at KingCon, this likely means you will be able to toughness test me to death ;D

[Jack Shrapnel]

....Tommy's absolute crushing of this list reminded me just how bad Skrolk is.... back to the drawing board!

....oh well, at least I have more core to paint now

[usscott]

i am try to do last for you to look at ambe itcan help.Come to see the problem . i have is that the monks are not core to get the rigth support uint in

[thesanityassassin]

I wouldn't take Tommy's absolute crushing of anything as a sign of it not working. He has that effect on most armies I make too.

[Jack Shrapnel]

I actually learn a lot when I play Tommy's lists (he has a knack of figuring out some brutal combos)... mainly it highlighted that the list was fundamentally weak in a number of different areas... I usually accept when I make a themed list that there will be a phase that I will not be as effective as a balanced list (comes with the territory) and for this I figured shooting was a write off, but I should have the strength of close combat, and some fairly strong magic to counter....

... yeah well skrolk ain't a grey seer I quickly found out, and his limitations to short range plague spells (and only level 3) made magic a fairly non-starter, as so much ranged damage can come in before that...

close combat that depends on furnaces... well it's just not that effective anymore now that furnaces are so easily taken out... even in combat now! (initiative order, stepping up, supporting attacks, no saves = easily hit and killed furnace)

and my memory is fuzzy on this rule, but I believe (and we played it this way) that randomization between rider and mount is gone now... and S3 shooting is going to kill a furnace rather easily!

so my plague list (which was very effective in 7th) is just not as effective now... which really shouldn't be much of a surprise to me as I've had to revamp how my other armies play too, so skaven should be no exception!

[Jack Shrapnel]

Well, don't want to score a whopping 1 point on army comp, so have to drop that uber-powered skrolk from my list.... to raise my comp to 2! ;D

So here is King-Con Skaven version 2 (still themed similiar, and still no BSB!)

Lords:

Grey Seer: dispel scroll, Talisman of preservation
Warlord: (general) War litter, weeping blade, warpstone armor

Heroes:

Plague priest: furnace
Plauge priest: furnace
Engineer: pistol, doomrocket

Core:

20 stormvermin: musician, standard, stormbanner, warpfire thrower
30 clanrats: musician, standard, shield, spear, poisoned wind motor
20 slaves: slings
20 slaves: slings
18 giant rats with 2 packmasters

Special:
24 plague monks: musician, standard
24 plague monks: musician, standard, banner of the eternal flame

Rare:
doomwheel
doomwheel

2399 points, 2/4 comp

[usscott]

drop the eng get a bsb . pick up flail for the pp. dam it man get a cannon i help you if you need it to get one

[usscott]

grey seer(dispel scroll,talisman of protection,irocures icon)
warlord(war-litter,sword of anti heroes,warpstone armor)
pp(flail,plague furnace)
pp(flail,plague furnace)
bsb(dragonhelm ,seed of rebirth,sheild)
30clanrats(fc,sheilds,mortor)
20slaves(fc,sling,shield)
20slaves(fc,sling,shield)
22skavenvermin(fc,sheild,warpfire,stormbanner)
20plague monks(fc,banner of eternal flames)
20plague monk(fc)
2doomwheel
if it was mine i drop the warlord and the wheels get some cannons and gutterruns if you just drop the warlord you can get tow 5 man uints of gutterruns what pis sling thell do more for you in the long run

[Jack Shrapnel]

lol... but your list has the cannons... remember, we're trying to bring different lists from one another!

How about this one? (Tommy's suggestion)

Skrolk
Plague Priest, dispel scroll, ironcurse, level two, flail, furnace
Plague priest, flail, furnace

20 slaves
20 slaves
30 clanrats, FC, sheild and spear
18 giant rats, 2 packmasters x3
25 plague monks, FC, stormbanner
25 plague monks, FC
6 rat ogres, 2 packmasters
plagueclaw catapault

....basically old school bubonic court list.... still doesn't get full comp lol!

[usscott]

the different i bell you furnare