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Post by voodoo on Mar 27, 2015 8:01:09 GMT -5
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Post by thesanityassassin on Mar 27, 2015 8:58:02 GMT -5
Want.
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Post by redshirt2375 on Mar 27, 2015 9:08:33 GMT -5
That's a pretty impressive flyer. Would love one for my Grey Knights to swap with the Stormraven
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Post by Khalai on Mar 27, 2015 9:16:23 GMT -5
Only 80GBP! Sigh. I think the Emp's will be waiting a while for this one.
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Post by thesanityassassin on Mar 27, 2015 9:51:27 GMT -5
Really interested in playtesting it. 205 is really pricey for 2HP at AV11, but it's got some gross weaponry and cool special rules.
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Post by Khalai on Mar 27, 2015 10:00:04 GMT -5
It's pretty paper thin for 205 points, but yea, dem weapons.
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 27, 2015 10:06:46 GMT -5
wow... that missile launcher is pretty nasty... but all the survivability of a storm talon though... trading strafing run and hover for agile, which is pretty good for a strict gunship... I think it'll get to shoot once per game normally and either get gunned down or being forced to jink... that first firing turn is going to be nasty though... quite likely to take out opposing armor AV12 and under - thinking wave serpents particularly... this would be quite likely to get through jink and score a meaningful result, and then followup with lascannon fire (once the target is immobilized and can no longer jink for example)
seems like a good (but fragile) ship
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Post by voodoo on Mar 27, 2015 11:03:53 GMT -5
And sadly not available for Chaos. I do agree that it’s a one-shot pony unless your opponent doesn’t have any anti-air and then they’re asking to get eaten alive by any flyer, much less this one. Those missiles though, damn! I know it’s an MC, not a vehicle, but it’d tear flyrant’s out of the air in short order too between the lascannons and missiles. Just AP’d out of existence with (possibly) 2 of those wounds forcing a re-roll on passed jink saves.
Just hope beyond hope you never face a Vindicare sniper sitting behind an Icarus Lascannon, or a skyray or that Flyrant should he make his jink saves.
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Post by thesanityassassin on Mar 27, 2015 12:23:18 GMT -5
Ugh, didn't notice it's not available for Chaos - I'd really only want one for the Word Bearers. Maybe if I get a reasonable 30k force going I'll think about one.
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Post by voodoo on Mar 27, 2015 12:27:56 GMT -5
Really though, from IA:13 Chaos now has better flyers than this guy mainly in the form of the fire raptor and the hellblade. Heck, you could nab a xiphon and convert it to have autocannons and use it as a stand-in hellblade in a pre-heresy scheme CSM force. Really though if it is on the board when a hellblade arrives, it’s likely dead anyhow as the hellblade is spitting 6x S7 Ap3 TL shots that re-roll armor pens. Add into the count that you can get a pair of said hellblades for the same price as the Xiphon (if it had all upgrades) and it’s not that stellar a plane.
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Post by thesanityassassin on Mar 27, 2015 12:34:08 GMT -5
Yup. I was just thinking that. I've got a HellBlade incoming and I'm fairly sure the Xiphon wouldn't unseat it. I *WOULD* like to at minimum get an Astartes pilot for the Hellblade though, despite the BS3
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Post by Jack Shrapnel on Mar 27, 2015 13:56:36 GMT -5
chaos can't complain about anyone's flyers....
hellblade, fire raptor and even the helldrake are all pretty fantastic at their various roles (and the new formation that gives the turkey's +1 strength on vector strikes is pretty crazy)
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Post by voodoo on Mar 27, 2015 14:16:21 GMT -5
chaos can't complain about anyone's flyers.... hellblade, fire raptor and even the helldrake are all pretty fantastic at their various roles (and the new formation that gives the turkey's +1 strength on vector strikes is pretty crazy) Yeah, no lie; we’ve got the best fliers in the game right now. Don’t forget oldie but goldie the Blight Drone with the 2+ jink or the Storm Eagle, faithfully dropping 20 bodies (or 10 terminators) from it's deep striking, melta-immune, assault vehicle hull. |
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Post by calitom on Mar 28, 2015 7:50:56 GMT -5
Eh, I honestly don't think this thing even hold a candle to the Stormraven, let alone the Talon- the weapons just don't make up the points value for the low survivability and it's built to jink which means it's output is going to be poop with that fancy missile launcher. Raven can Jink at AV 12 3HP and still fire a TL weapon at full ballistic skill. Power of the Machine spirit is god among the flyer world...
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Post by Hizack on Mar 29, 2015 6:38:58 GMT -5
I told you to wait for the rules. Forge World loves those Av11 2hp flyers. Turns out this thing is just a 205 point alpha strike which is worse than the Storm Raven. At least it'll make great conversions.
Edit: I just read that little tidbit at the end about Flyers and Deepstriking. Interesting, is that blurb anywhere else because that would be a good clarification for me even though we were basically already playing it mostly like that.
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