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Tau FAQ
Jul 15, 2016 19:55:56 GMT -5
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Jul 15, 2016 19:55:56 GMT -5
Can you tank shock when arriving from reserve? Maybe an out flanking tank could get one?
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Tau FAQ
Jul 15, 2016 19:58:06 GMT -5
Post by raceygaming on Jul 15, 2016 19:58:06 GMT -5
oh no, it is very much your fault if you lose a Stormsurge to a Rhino. I really don't think it has any real baring on how I play or the game at all. It just seems weird to me that they made this out of left field ruling that goes against the rule book....idk if its a misdirect so people can hold it up as a "nerf" or if some one is bitter about that one time they could have killed the Stormsurge and didn't.
I actually and thinking its just a troll insert to get people talking and back to hating on GW after all the good they have done.
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Tau FAQ
Jul 15, 2016 20:10:05 GMT -5
Post by Jack Shrapnel on Jul 15, 2016 20:10:05 GMT -5
It's to have a potential downside to the anchors I think. But it's laughably easy to avoid.
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Tau FAQ
Jul 15, 2016 20:28:59 GMT -5
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Jul 15, 2016 20:28:59 GMT -5
I've changed my mind. This is hilarious. Love it.
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Post by voodoo on Jul 15, 2016 20:59:35 GMT -5
Orks have the most hilarious way to kill an anchored stormsurge. The special character biker can hammer of wrath OR tank shock. Yep, turbo-boost that biatchio off the board.
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Tau FAQ
Sept 8, 2016 14:51:39 GMT -5
Post by voodoo on Sept 8, 2016 14:51:39 GMT -5
Just re-reading this, why does GW have such a love for Tau and such a vehement hatred for every other army? Fucking bullshit.
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Tau FAQ
Sept 8, 2016 15:42:44 GMT -5
Post by LizardTau on Sept 8, 2016 15:42:44 GMT -5
what do you mean?
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Tau FAQ
Sept 8, 2016 18:28:56 GMT -5
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Post by voodoo on Sept 8, 2016 18:28:56 GMT -5
Tau is the only army that can get bonuses from both the formation and the weird pre-requisite pseudo-CAD.
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Tau FAQ
Sept 8, 2016 18:49:45 GMT -5
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Post by ohgodsnakes on Sept 8, 2016 18:49:45 GMT -5
Tau is the only army that can get bonuses from both the formation and the weird pre-requisite pseudo-CAD. Are you referring to the base formation (hunter cadre) in the larger decurion style formation (hunter contingent)? If so, I'm pretty sure most 7th Ed. codexes with the new format (necrons on) have the same thing. The reclamation legion has a bonus within the Decurion, the battle demi company and all its flavours in the Angels of Death supplement get bonuses within the larger formation,and so on.
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Tau FAQ
Sept 8, 2016 20:48:54 GMT -5
Post by Jack Shrapnel on Sept 8, 2016 20:48:54 GMT -5
yup... auxilleries gain the same overall benefits...
...otherwise decurion would be useless as only the tax units would get 4+ reanimation!!!
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Tau FAQ
Sept 9, 2016 7:29:01 GMT -5
Post by voodoo on Sept 9, 2016 7:29:01 GMT -5
Yeah, the main saltiness came from the Firebase Support Cadre; I may be wrong, but the wording seems to read that they get both the Tank Hunter/Monster Hunter from their formation as well as +1 to BS from the Contingent itself if there’s 3 or more units shooting the same unit. It just seemed over the top that they just keep layering on bonuses to stuff that’s already getting a buff.
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Tau FAQ
Sept 9, 2016 10:03:39 GMT -5
Post by ohgodsnakes on Sept 9, 2016 10:03:39 GMT -5
Free transports that get OBSEC and IWND with certain chapter tactics seems like a pretty good thing too, or free upgrades to everything and no Gets Hot, or t8 jump gargantuan creatures with D coming out their eyeballs. Tau can be gooey gouda for sure, but there are other even sharper cheddars out there. Precedents have been made for these layered buffs.
The firebase cadre thing only brings them to BS 4 anyways, which was easily achieved with 1 markerlight before. I ran that formation at the club championship and it did ok, but certainly wasn't an mvp for me. I would have thought you'd be saltier about the Optimized stealth Cadre. If taken in the Hunter Contingent and they activate wall of mirrors to shoot at the same target, they're all BS5, Ignores Cover, hitting against your rear armour value.
The other issue the Hunter Contingent faces is against MSU style armies. That Firebase support cadre is over 300pts base for 3 models, and you're going to want to upgrade them. A good one is going to run around 500pts, or a third to a quarter of an army. If all three units survive the whole game, they can pulverize ONE unit a turn, so pretty much useless against a Gladius. Another downside which hit me hard in the championship/trenton ITC is you loose that monster hunter/tank hunter if one unit dies, as all three need to fire at the same target to gain the effects. Pop a unit of broadsides or tie them up in combat and suddenly no more bonuses.
The Hunter Contingent really punishes deathstar builds or GMCs. Large, expensive single targets where the concentrated fire of multiple units compliment each other.
I'm not saying they aren't a good formation made of good units, I just don't think they're the be all and end all of Venezuelan beaver cheese.
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Post by LizardTau on Sept 9, 2016 10:11:06 GMT -5
Yeah, the main saltiness came from the Firebase Support Cadre; I may be wrong, but the wording seems to read that they get both the Tank Hunter/Monster Hunter from their formation as well as +1 to BS from the Contingent itself if there’s 3 or more units shooting the same unit. It just seemed over the top that they just keep layering on bonuses to stuff that’s already getting a buff. Yes they do get both. But they did before the faq. Tau can be daunting at times cause they do buff them selves up a lot. That said if you know how to take them out they can die easy. That new chaos raptor talon formation is going to be the bane of tau everywhere. Sent from my SGH-I337M using proboards
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Tau FAQ
Sept 9, 2016 10:40:17 GMT -5
Post by Jack Shrapnel on Sept 9, 2016 10:40:17 GMT -5
I actually don't find Tau that bad at all... I mean don't get me wrong, they're in the top five in my opinion, but the top two are solidly Eldar and Space Marines (depending who you ask determines who's 1 and who's 2). Tau have some severe hard counters (see necron vs. tau battle report recently posted... seriously go see that! lol)
Tau struggle with properly built Eldar, Space Marines, Necrons, Daemons, and flyers unless they specifically tool for them. Assault armies that can reliably hit turn two also make quite a mess of them.
Given their reliance on shooting solely, I'm actually super surprised they're not BS4 already just across the board. That's what I would have done to be honest.
Tau is a tough fight. But I don't think they're overpowered.
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Sept 9, 2016 10:58:51 GMT -5
Post by voodoo on Sept 9, 2016 10:58:51 GMT -5
Tau are going to laugh at the raptor talon… There’s nothing to stop the tau from firing overwatch. Speaking from experience; I know how tough single wound models are, even with an invul save. You are right about it Lukas, there are far worse combo’s out there in regards to Tau and I had forgotten that once one dies you lose those bonuses, the uptick to the stealth cadre is thankfully short ranged weaponry on the majority of the stealthy suits.
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