Chaos Daemons FAQ!

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Q: How does the Daemon of Tzeentch rule work in the Psychic phase?
A: As Daemons of Tzeentch gain +3 Leadership while manifesting psychic powers, they are more resistant to many effects should they suffer Perils of the Warp.

Q: If a Chaos Daemon Psyker generates all of their powers from a single discipline from Warhammer 40,000: The Rules, does he benefit from Psychic Focus in addition to Chaos Psychic Focus (as the mandatory primaris power from Chaos Psychic Focus isn’t generated as such)?
A: Yes.

Q: Tzeentch Warpflame – does the Feel No Pain gained by an enemy unit who passes a Toughness test stack with successive applications?
A: Yes, although this cannot be improved beyond Feel No Pain (2+).

Q: For Flickering Fire of Tzeentch (the primaris power of the Discipline of Change), do you have to declare how many Warp Charge points are being used with the power before rolling for the Psychic test?
A: Yes, you must declare whether you mean to harness 1, 2 or 3 Warp Charge points before rolling.

Q: Can Kairos Fateweaver still use his Staff of Tomorrow re-roll when he is in Reserve?
A: No.

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Q: In Warhammer 40,000, Skull Cannons of Khorne have two Bloodletters. In the Assault phase, do you only have to kill those two to remove the model, like killing the rider of a Chariot?
A: You cannot target the Bloodletters – they are considered to be part of the Skull Cannon, not riders. To destroy a Skull Cannon in the Fight sub-phase, you have to attack the Skull Cannon, and hits will be resolved against its front armour as with other Chariots. Also note the following amendment, published October 2014:

Page 32 – Skull Cannons of Khorne
Add the following under Special Rules:
‘Bloodletter Crew: This model makes 2 additional Strength 4 AP3 Attacks in each Assault phase resolved at Weapon Skill 5. These Attacks are made at the Initiative 4 step (though this does not grant an extra Pile In move). On a turn in which this model charged, the Strength of these Attacks is increased to 5.’

Q: When a unit in Reserve with an Instrument of Chaos makes a succesful Reserve Roll, it can choose a unit in Deep Strike Reserve to arrive automatically. If the chosen unit has an Instrument of Chaos, can it choose another unit to arrive automatically, and so on?
A: No. No roll is made for the unit chosen to arrive automatically, and an Instrument of Chaos’ special rule is only triggered by a successful Reserve Roll.

Q: Can Daemons charge in the turn in which they are summoned?
A: No.

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Q: Can a Daemon’s invulnerable save be improved to better than 2+ (through the effect of psychic powers and other abilities which improve invulnerable saves)?
A: No.

Q: What’s the movement in inches for the Skull Cannons and Blood Thrones of Khorne?
A: They are Chariots, which move following the same rules as vehicles of their type. This means that they have a Combat Speed of up to 6" and a Cruising Speed of between 6" and 12".

Q: In the digital version of Codex: Chaos Daemons, is it intended that the Staff of Change is now a Greater Reward while the Mutating Warpblade is a Lesser Reward?
A: No, the digital version is in error and will be corrected.

Q: Are the Blue Scribes affected by Daemonology (Malefic) powers that target the Psyker, since they themselves are not Psykers? Specifically, would they be removed as a casualty of Possession?
A: Although they are not Psykers, they are considered to be a Psyker when manifesting a psychic power (otherwise they wouldn’t be able to benefit from blessings like Cursed Earth, for example). This means that if they manifest Sacrifice they will be wounded (unless you choose another friendly model within 6" to take the Wound) and if they manifest Possession they will be removed as casualties.

Q: Keepers of Secrets have Preferred Enemy (Eldar & Dark Eldar) – what about Harlequins and Corsairs?
A: The rule applies to all kinds of Eldar, including Harlequins and Corsairs.

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Q: Can you take the Masque of Slaanesh as part of the Heralds of Chaos?
A: No. She has fallen out of favour with Slaanesh, so is not treated the same as the other Heralds.

Q: Can the Masque of Slaanesh use her powers through the Fire Points of buildings?
A: No.

Q: Should the Lash of Despair have Rending?
A: No.

Q: Nurglings have defensive grenades through the Daemon of Nurgle special rule, but you can only use grenades instead of another shooting weapon. As Nurglings have no shooting weapons, does this mean that they cannot throw their grenades?
A: No. One base of Nurglings in a unit can throw a defensive grenade in their Shooting phase (though it’s best not to think too hard about precisely what it is they’re throwing).

Q: According to the rules, ‘friendly units’ are all units under your control. Does that mean that a model can target itself with an ability or equipment that targets friendly units, like the Grimoire of True Names?
A: Yes (although in this instance, the Grimoire of True Names has no effect on the bearer).

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War Zone Fenris: Curse of the Wulfen
Q: When using Daemonic Corruption to control Objective Markers, if a Daemon unit from a Daemonic Incursion Detachment is sitting on an Objective Marker, can an enemy unit take it back without a special rule like Objective Secured?
A: If a unit from a Daemonic Incursion is within 3" of a corrupted Objective Marker and an enemy unit is also within 3" of that Objective Marker, the Chaos Daemon player still controls that Objective Marker (it is not contested), unless the enemy unit has a rule that allows it to control an Objective Marker regardless of the presence of enemy models (such as Objective Secured). In the latter case, the Objective Marker is claimed (and cleansed) by the unit with Objective Secured.

Q: War Zone Fenris: Curse of the Wulfen states that ‘The Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury, Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage and Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster datasheets replace the Bloodthirster Army List Entry found in Codex: Chaos Daemons.’ Does this mean that when I cast the Daemonology (Malefic) Possession psychic power I get to choose any of the three Bloodthirsters listed to conjure?
A: Yes.

Q: The Whips of Agony from War Zone Fenris: Curse of the Wulfen state that only an Exalted Alluress can take them, but the Exalted Alluress on a Hellflayer doesn’t have the option to take daemonic rewards. Can she take the Whips of Agony?
A: No. Only an Exalted Alluress riding a Seeker Chariot or Exalted Seeker Chariot can take the Whips of Agony.

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Q: Does Shared Power from the Infernal Tetrad treat each Daemon Prince as if it were the Warlord, or do Warlord Traits with wordings like ‘your Warlord receives X’ only affect the actual Warlord? Do these effects stack?
A: When using Shared Power, the other models in the Infernal Tetrad have the same Warlord Trait that you generate for your Warlord. This affects each of the Daemon Princes as if they were your Warlord, and they each benefit individually from the rule. For example, if you generated the Savage Hedonist Warlord Trait, you would add 1 to the Attacks characteristic of each of the models, not 4 to the Attacks characteristic of your Warlord. The effects are never cumulative – a unit within 7" of two or more models with the Miasma of Pestilence Warlord Trait would only suffer D6 additional Strength 1 hits with the Poisoned special rule at the end of the phase, not 2D6 or more. For another example, if the models in the Infernal Tetrad have the Strategic Genius Warlord Trait, you would only add 1 to your roll to Seize the Initiative, not 4.

Q: How does Shared Power interact with Slay the Warlord?
A: Only the model originally chosen to be your Warlord awards a Victory Point for Slay the Warlord.

Q: The Infernal Tetrad’s Shared Power special rule states that if one of the Daemon Princes is your Warlord then the other models in the Formation also have his Warlord Trait. Does this mean if my Warlord is aligned to Tzeentch and I roll Lorekeeper of Tzeentch that I can have a Daemon Prince of Khorne with Psyker (Mastery Level 1)?
A: In this circumstance, Shared Power does not apply to Daemon Princes of Khorne.

Q: Does the ‘flip’ from the Paradox artefact count as a re-roll for the purposes of the rule allowing any dice to only be re-rolled once?
A: No. You could use a re-roll on the dice you have ‘flipped’ or use the ‘flip’ on re-rolled dice.

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Q: Does the effect of the Mark of Excess artefact stack?
A: Yes.

Q: The Lord of Skulls isn’t mentioned in the update for Daemons in War Zone Fenris: Curse of the Wulfen. Was this a deliberate omission?
A: Yes.

ERRATA
Exalted Flamer of Tzeentch
Change the Unit Type of the Exalted Flamer of Tzeentch to read:
‘Jump Infantry (Character)’

Daemonic Incursion Detachment, Command Benefits, Daemonic Corruption
Change the first sentence to read as follows:
‘Any Objective Markers controlled by units from this Detachment at the end of your turn count as being under your control for the rest of the game, even if you have no units within 3" of them. A unit can only corrupt a single Objective Marker in this manner at the end of each of your turns.’

Daemonic Incursion Detachment, Command Benefits
Add the following Command Benefit:
‘Patronage of the Dark Gods: Psykers from this Detachment can choose to generate all of their psychic powers from the Discipline of Change, Plague or Excess (as appropriate) if they wish. However, if they do so, then the rules for Chaos Focus (see Warhammer 40,000: The Rules) no longer apply to them; they follow the normal rules for Psychic Focus instead.’

[Jack Shrapnel]

wow... no Kairos reroll when he's off the table... I think this makes sense but I think I can hear the gnashing of tourney players teeth from here!

ughhhh the masque got a couple nerfs... it's not like anyone ran her anyways...lol

ah, they specifically took away the possible ML1 prince of khorne from the tetrad...again makes sense

cleared up daemonic corruption to the version that makes the most sense.. that's good.

altogether can't see anything I disagree with

[voodoo]

After having a good read over I agree, there’s nothing too shattering in here, chaos daemons get the good bloodthirsters too, so that’s nice. And yeah, poor Masque… oh well, Slaanesh will be gone soon anyways so it’s a moot point!

[Jack Shrapnel]

Slaanesh isn't going anywhere

that would be a whole lot of books and models to scrap and an entire pantheon to retcon. extremely doubtful.

Slaanesh isn't gone in age of sigmar either... it specifically says Slaanesh is mysteriously missing and his/her followers are seeking to find her/him. Still in all the fluff

[LizardTau]

Ya nothing crazy.

That's the way I have played fateweaver I didn't know there was another way to play him.

The demonic coruption thing is how I thought it should work but I have always nerfed it a bit cause wasn't sure.

It will really hurt any armies without objective secure

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[LizardTau]

Oh sorry. Exalted flamers are now.... jump infantry. Making just the same except they can join normal flamers and keep up with them. Jet pack would be better

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